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Posted on 3/2/14 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 3/2/14 at 7:27 pm
California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) said Sunday that he is not convinced legalizing marijuana is a good idea because the population needs to "stay alert."
"The problem with anything, a certain amount is okay," Brown said on NBC's Meet the Press. "But there is a tendency to go to extremes. And all of a sudden, if there's advertising and legitimacy, how many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation? The world's pretty dangerous, very competitive. I think we need to stay alert, if not 24 hours a day, more than some of the potheads might be able to put together."
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"The problem with anything, a certain amount is okay," Brown said on NBC's Meet the Press. "But there is a tendency to go to extremes. And all of a sudden, if there's advertising and legitimacy, how many people can get stoned and still have a great state or a great nation? The world's pretty dangerous, very competitive. I think we need to stay alert, if not 24 hours a day, more than some of the potheads might be able to put together."
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 7:55 pm to LSU1NSEC
Its all about the cashish. If it makes them more money, it will be outright legal.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 7:57 pm to LSU1NSEC
Weed effects people differently. When I used to smoke I was an unproductive piece of shite, so I quit. Some of the smartest, most productive people I know are stoners though.
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Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:03 pm to LSU1NSEC
I think that the lost productivity will be greater than the tax revenues.....at least in the short term. Most employers will probably still prohibit weed use by their employees, so there will be a certain percentage that will stay intentionally unemployed just so they can smoke weed. The libertarian in me says "frick it, let people do what they want with their bodies." The capitalist conservative in me says that legalization will be a bad idea economically.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:10 pm to Tantal
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The capitalist conservative in me says that legalization will be a bad idea economically.
IMO, the capitalist conservative in you should say it doesn't matter if people become unproductive/lose their jobs for being shitty employees on pot. Let employers monitor it how they want, then let people decide if they want a job that allows it or not and do to their bodies as they choose. I can't think of a more capitalistic conservative approach than that.
A lot of the bums that grow unproductive on pot could open up a job opportunity for someone currently needing unemployment benefits.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:14 pm to LSU1NSEC
Are all drunks wife beating pieces of shite? Does he have problems with Bud Light ads during NFL games? I can't believe this stupid motherfricker is the governor of a state.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:15 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
If 10% are producing nothing and getting welfare benefits, that hurts the whole economy. If you were going to open up a factory, would you do it in a state where 10-20% of the population were known to be stoners?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:16 pm to DMagic
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I can't believe this stupid motherfricker is the governor of a state.
It is California.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:18 pm to Tantal
Pot's not going to magically make productive people unproductive. The same people who can't handle responsible drinking will be the irresponsible smokers. We will just make extra revenue off of them.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:20 pm to RTR America
It's one of the largest economies in the entire world.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:21 pm to DMagic
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It's one of the largest economies in the entire world.
Doesn't change the fact that it is run like shite
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:21 pm to Tantal
No, I wouldn't. I just don't want a nanny state attempting to socially engineer good workers. That straight up doesn't work.
There are tons of people who are currently unemployed that don't smoke pot. If governor nanny state is correct about pot making you unproductive (which I think he probably is) I'm confident that there will be suitable replacements for the people who lose their jobs due to pot.
His argument seems to rest on the premise that these people who may grow unproductive are the last hope for their most likely unimportant jobs being completed. Think about the type of people who would let marijuana legalization impact their job performance. It's not a bunch of rocket scientists and neurosurgeons. It's a bunch of people whose job would be easily filled quickly if they became poor performers and needed to be fired.
One person may go on unemployment at that point, but another person could come off unemployment. I don't see it increasing the unemployment rate or need for other social services.
There are tons of people who are currently unemployed that don't smoke pot. If governor nanny state is correct about pot making you unproductive (which I think he probably is) I'm confident that there will be suitable replacements for the people who lose their jobs due to pot.
His argument seems to rest on the premise that these people who may grow unproductive are the last hope for their most likely unimportant jobs being completed. Think about the type of people who would let marijuana legalization impact their job performance. It's not a bunch of rocket scientists and neurosurgeons. It's a bunch of people whose job would be easily filled quickly if they became poor performers and needed to be fired.
One person may go on unemployment at that point, but another person could come off unemployment. I don't see it increasing the unemployment rate or need for other social services.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:25 pm to LSU1NSEC
Isn't Jerry Brown a known buttfricker?
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:25 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
I am at a crossroads on part of the issue. I have no issue with it being legalized, but I think if you are on any sort of government assistance outside of health related issues then you should have to be administered to drug test to receive the welfare.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:27 pm to RTR America
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but I think if you are on any sort of government assistance outside of health related issues then you should have to be administered to drug test to receive the welfare.
I'm on board with that completely. To me, you should be allowed to completely ruin your body if you opt to, however if you are consuming things that impact your employability, the government shouldn't subsidize your ruination of your body. I wouldn't lock them up, just have some system for them to not receive the money.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:28 pm to LSU1NSEC
He's right.
Alcohol is legal but it's not acceptable to drink all day, or to excessively drink often.
Yet with weed the green light of legalization gives the perception to users that it's okay to burn as often as they'd like.
Alcohol is legal but it's not acceptable to drink all day, or to excessively drink often.
Yet with weed the green light of legalization gives the perception to users that it's okay to burn as often as they'd like.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:31 pm to Sleeping Tiger
I agree that he's correct in that it will decrease productivity for some people. I have no doubts on that. My issue is that I don't see that as a reason for legality/illegality.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:33 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
I think he was being sarcastic
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:42 pm to LSU1NSEC
I am all for legalization. There are some very book-smart people competing with me in my job market that want nothing more than to get stoned at night/on the weekends.
Let Darwin do his thing.
Let Darwin do his thing.
Posted on 3/2/14 at 9:58 pm to DMagic
I'm all for legalization if private companies will still be allowed to drug test.
Can't have people high while at work, especially jobs that require operating equipment.
Anybody who will be unproductive due to weed is probably already an unproductive stoner. You could make the argument that legalizing it will create new industry for potheads to be legal growers/distributors. Also it will save taxpayer money that funds the War on Drugs, along with less inmates who are imprisoned for non violent crimes.
Can't have people high while at work, especially jobs that require operating equipment.
Anybody who will be unproductive due to weed is probably already an unproductive stoner. You could make the argument that legalizing it will create new industry for potheads to be legal growers/distributors. Also it will save taxpayer money that funds the War on Drugs, along with less inmates who are imprisoned for non violent crimes.
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