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Does changing formation (shift) reset 10 count?ET correct

Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:00 am
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:00 am
Under the new "delay of game" rule if an offense shifts formations does the 10 count reset?

It might be unsafe for players on defense to not have time to process where everyone is or make it hard for the officials to do their job.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:10 am to
It is easy to expect less from you Auburn fans but lets stop with the cute stuff. This rule is precisely to stop the cheap snapping the ball when teams are running guys off on 3rd down type plays. That is really all it is about.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:21 am to
quote:

It is easy to expect less from you Auburn fans but lets stop with the cute stuff. This rule is precisely to stop the cheap snapping the ball when teams are running guys off on 3rd down type plays. That is really all it is about.



3rd down specialists shouldn't be playing against HUNH offenses.

It's a coaching problem.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:26 am to
I guess if you want football to be rugby. Again the rule isn't about player safety at all it is maintaining the integrity of what makes American football distinct from Rugby or Soccer the system of downs and specialized players.
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:31 am to
quote:

It is easy to expect less from you Auburn fans but lets stop with the cute stuff. This rule is precisely to stop the cheap snapping the ball when teams are running guys off on 3rd down type plays. That is really all it is about.


Get used to a lot more "cuteness" if this rule happens to pass - and not just from AU fans. When 98% of the programs are against a rule and it passes anyway, get used to a lot more venom towards your coach for somehow sneaking it in behind the backs of all the others. It won't be a good rule, it won't protect anyone except fat defensive guys, and it makes your coach looks underhanded.

By the way, what does he say about all the controversy?
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19498 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:33 am to
So mad..
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:34 am to
We get that you don't like the rule, you don't like Saban, and you don't like the way he has dealt with it.

It's the hundreds of new threads with a pseudo-witty theme that is old. If you want to express yourself, go for it. Starting new threads under the guise of a legitimate question is annoying.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:35 am to
quote:

I guess if you want football to be rugby. Again the rule isn't about player safety at all it is maintaining the integrity of what makes American football distinct from Rugby or Soccer the system of downs and specialized players


bullshite. The HUNH is the offensive counterpunch to over specialization. And Saban doesn't like that there's no easy defensive counter. Sucks for him but it's entertaining as hell.
Posted by tampajoe
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:36 am to
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isn't about player safety at all it is maintaining the integrity


WHAT? Not about safety at all?

So did saben lie to the committee to get them to agree to pass the rule.

If it's not about safety, then it shouldn't be up for voting at all this year and should be tabled. Does the committee know that it's only about "integrity" and keeping the game the way certain programs want it to stay?
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:38 am to
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WHAT? Not about safety at all?

So did saben lie to the committee to get them to agree to pass the rule.

If it's not about safety, then it shouldn't be up for voting at all this year and should be tabled. Does the committee know that it's only about "integrity" and keeping the game the way certain programs want it to stay?




Or the way football has been played before we started hiring coaches from high schools.

No team runs HUNH every down, it is impossible. As well all good teams vary tempos from slow to fast depending on game situations. So lets cut the crap you guys aren't doing anything innovative. You are simply catching defenses in situations and not letting them substitute. That is all. If you guys want to play 11 on 11 then lets go back to Iron Man, otherwise you guys are just using a loophole in a rule to mask your talent deficiencies.

So both pro and anti HUNH sides are advocating policy to advance their philosophy. I would rather it be known my program was running a pro style offense than the one John Q Public High School and their youth programs are running every week.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 7:42 am
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:41 am to
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So mad..


Not mad. Just amused at all the bammers falling over themselves to defend what the whole country knows was a selfish attempt at a coach to pass a rule for his own benefit - and lying about it and saying it was safety.

No, highly amused! I believe some others are mad because people are talking about it though.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:42 am to
Because an Auburn coach has never tried to pass a rule for their own benefit before. Again lets cut the self righteous BS.
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:44 am to
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Or the way football has been played before we started hiring coaches from high schools


Wow, that high school coach has certainly gotten into the head of your extra special COLLEGE coach, enough so that he can't defend him and has to go begging for rule changes to slow him down.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:47 am to
we've played what one game? Or are we taking credit for games where Malzahn wasn't even the head coach now?

Again you must have started being an Auburn fan in like 2010 if you are going to complain about coaches lobbying for rule changes that benefit them. Personally I have no probably with coaches lobbying in theory, like you Auburn fans seem to do.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 7:49 am
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:48 am to
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Because an Auburn coach has never tried to pass a rule for their own benefit before. Again lets cut the self righteous BS.


Enlighten us. When was this? I can't remember any coach causing this kind of anger by using his influence to try to sneak in a rule change for his own benefit - but I guess I've just forgotten.

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Or are we taking credit for games where Malzahn wasn't even the head coach now?


"We" aren't taking credit for anything. The question is whether the high school coach is causing your wonderboy coach to do strange and unethical things to defeat him.
This post was edited on 2/23/14 at 7:52 am
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:51 am to
So when exactly did you become an Auburn fan? When Saban proposed this rule?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:57 am to
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By the way, what does he say about all the controversy?






"Do you think I sit around all day reading magazines or what?" He neither thinks nor cares about the "controversy". You see, he doesn't give a frick what the people who consider this a controversy, think or say. Will you clowns ever figure that out!
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 7:57 am to
The funny thing is how all the idiot auburn fans keep starting thread after thread, whining about our coach whining.

If you really believe Nick Saban is scared of the HUNH and can't beat that offense without changing the rules, at least recognize that it isn't Gus Malzahn who drew first blood with it. It was Kevin Sumlin. Long before the fluke pass against UGA and the FG legendary FG return, A&M lit up Alabama's defense two years in a row with that offense.

So next time you go tickle your coach's balls as you worship him for "scaring" Saban, make sure you give a quick handjob to Sumlin and Manziel on the way out.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 8:01 am to
quote:

you guys are just using a loophole in a rule to mask your talent deficiencies.


Bama is using a "loophole" to sign 5 five stars every year then. There should be a rule against that too.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 2/23/14 at 8:01 am to
quote:


"We" aren't taking credit for anything. The question is whether the high school coach is causing your wonderboy coach to do strange and unethical things to defeat him.



"strange and unethical".

You can't pay for a classic melt like this it is almost like you guys lost the Iron Bowl Saban is so far in your heads. We better give him a raise to pay the Lee County property tax.
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