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Johnny's NFL Prospects

Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:45 pm
I don't think we have a thread on this board yet about Johnny's NFL propsects. I saw this article today and thought it'd be a good start.

From Johnny Football to Johnny Manziel: The Making of an NFL Quarterback

quote:

"I want everybody from the janitor at Reliant Stadium to the front office executive assistant all the way up to (owner) Bob McNair to say, 'This kid is 100 percent, can't miss. This is who we want being the face of our program. We want the Texas kid staying in Texas and leading the Texans.'"


His work ethic is unmatched.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5592 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:18 pm to
Critics that say he won't be able to create plays like he did in college never mention the fact that the dude is absolutely dead eye accurate when he's on. He doesn't need to rush for 700-1000 yards like he did in college, just move in the pocket and give himself another 2-3 seconds to make a throw. His arm strength isn't drastically different than Russell Wilson's. Most people overrate arm strength in the NFL as well. A friend of mine is on the Patriots and he has said that he has rarely ever seen Brady throw over 25 yards, however 25 yards and in he can drop in on a dime.

I don't know if I'd take him top 5, but that being said nobody pays me shite to scout NFL talent either. Regardless I think Johnny will be very successful in the NFL as long as he doesn't go to the Browns or Raiders.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:21 pm to
I never understood the "he wont get away with that in the NFL" argument. Why the hell not? Fran Tarkenton did, Randall Cunningham did, Colin Kaepernick does currently, etc.

Manziel is going to run for lots of yards in the NFL just like he did in college.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

I never understood the "he wont get away with that in the NFL" argument.


If anyone says that they're admitting that they've only seen highlights. Of course the crazy scrambles and escapes are what get shown the most. That and a lot of people still have Michael Vick in their head aka if you're a running QB then you're a subpar passer at best.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:34 pm to
Manziel was a better passer halfway trough his freshman year than Michael Vick EVER will be
Posted by ImperialPalace
Galveston, Texas
Member since Oct 2012
2888 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:35 pm to
Former Texans GM Charley Casserly isn't a big fan of Manziel. NFL.com Article

Then again, there's a reason why Casserly is no longer in the Texans' employ.

At any rate, here is this year's draft order:

1. Houston
2. St. Louis (from Washington)
3. Jacksonville
4. Cleveland
5. Oakland Raiders
6. Atlanta
7. Tampa Bay
8. Minnesota
9. Buffalo
10. Detroit
11. Tennessee
12. NY Giants
13. St. Louis
14. Chicago
15. Pittsburgh
16. Baltimore
17. Dallas
18. NY Jets
19. Miami
20. Arizona
21. Green Bay
22. Philadelphia
23. Kansas City
24. Cincinnati
25. San Diego
26. Cleveland (from Indianapolis)
27. New Orleans
28. Carolina
29. New England
30. San Francisco
31. Denver
32. Seattle

Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Oakland all need an upgrade at the QB position. In my opinion, none of these teams would be ideal for Johnny from an organizational standpoint. Most mock drafts currently don't have him falling further than #5, but it's still over two months from draft day.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 3:51 pm to
I'm a huge Cowboys fan, but me and my best friend from A&M both live in Houston (we can walk to Reliant in 10 minutes) and we've agreed we're going in for season tickets in they draft Manziel. I cant make it up for many A&M games while in school so thats the next best thing
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1104 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 4:08 pm to
I live about a mile and half away from Reliant.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
144953 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 4:13 pm to
all I care about is:
A) goes top 5 for the melt on the rant and the MSB and
B) does not go to Cleveland

other than that im good
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13837 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

I live about a mile and half away from Reliant.

Thoughts & prayers.
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

I live about a mile and half away from Reliant




Wanna buy a gun or two
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1104 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 5:01 pm to
I have three guns, a motion sensitive camera in my living room and an alarm system.

The area can be sketchy, just have to stay on the West side of 288, it was convenient commute for both my wife's and I's work at the time.

Thankfully I'm starting a new job in a few weeks and as soon as our lease is up we will be moving.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 5:13 pm to
Honestly it's not that bad. It's close enough to the med center that crime generally stays away from us
Posted by Agforlife
Somewhere in the Brazos Valley
Member since Nov 2012
20102 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 5:21 pm to
Yeah I know I lived in Houston for 18 years. Well when I wasn't forced to live in Huntsville
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

I never understood the "he wont get away with that in the NFL" argument. Why the hell not? Fran Tarkenton did, Randall Cunningham did, Colin Kaepernick does currently, etc.


Whenever people trot out that line or the "he just threw jump balls to Evans" spiel, I just shut down the convo. Not even worth the time and breath to argue with stupidity.
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