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Random Stat: AJ had more 50+ yard passes than anyone in the SEC in 2013

Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:17 pm
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:17 pm
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Trying to think of what they were.

The 99 yarder to Cooper
The checkdown to Henry
The screen to Cooper vs UT
The screen to Cooper vs Oklahoma
The deep ball to White vs Oklahoma
The other deep ball to White vs Oklahoma
The Flea Flicker to White vs A&M
The screen to KB7 vs A&M
The slant to Norwood vs Chattanooga (I think that's right)
The slant to OJ Howard vs LSU


I think that is all of them. That is 10, the only one I'm not sure about is the Norwood play vs Chattanooga. I know he had one to Norwood, but I don't know if that was it or not.


This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 6:20 pm
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:18 pm to
Flea flicker to KB7 vs A&M 2012?

ETA: I don't read good.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 7:40 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:19 pm to
I know last year was disappointing but thinking about those plays brought a smile to my face. I had a blast last season

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 6:20 pm to
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Flea flicker to KB7 vs A&M 2012?


This is just for 2013.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

AJ had more 50+ yard passes than anyone in the SEC in 2013
quote:

The checkdown to Henry
The screen to Cooper vs UT
The screen to Cooper vs Oklahoma
The screen to KB7 vs A&M
The slant to Norwood vs Chattanooga
The slant to OJ Howard vs LSU

This is why I hate the passing yards stat for QBs.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:13 pm to
The slant to Howard was a great play by McCarron, are you kidding me?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:16 pm to
Sure, it was a great pass, but then Howard did the rest of the work by running an extra 40 yards or so. The actual pass was only 10 yards downfield.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 7:18 pm to
He audibled and checked to it? QB's make the play with their mind before they make it with their arm or their feet.

That is why guy whose won nothing of significance but happens to have a strong arm (Bortles) is going early but AJ will go later, because the NFL is retarded for the most part when they draft their QBs. They go for the "strongest" arm when that guy often has rocks for brains. Once a guy like Murray or McCarron get to the point they can make all the throws then extra arm strength is just a wasted stat.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:11 pm to
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but then Howard did the rest of the work by running an extra 40 yards or so


A big part of the reason he was able to do that is because AJ recognized the coverage and saw that OJ would have a lot of room to run on the slant.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:16 pm to
It was still a 10 yard pass and OJ had to outrun either a safety or a corner that had a great angle on him.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 8:53 pm to
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It was still a 10 yard pass and OJ had to outrun either a safety or a corner that had a great angle on him.



So you are saying that AJ didnt deserve those stats?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:02 pm to
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So you are saying that AJ didnt deserve those stats?

I would give him the completion and 10 yards.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:09 pm to
So do you believe that assists shouldnt count as a stat in basketball?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:15 pm to
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So do you believe that assists shouldnt count as a stat in basketball?
I don't see how it is comparable. You aren't credited with the made basket, just that you passed him the ball.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:15 pm to
I've know Pville for a long time and he is a friend but that is a dumb way to count football stats. Basically whistle to whistle stats are the only fair honest way to do it.

A 50 yard pass is a 50 yard pass whether its a screen, a slat, a flare, a stick, a box, a go, or a fade.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:21 pm to
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I don't see how it is comparable.


One person person gives the ball to another, and the person giving the ball gets a significant stat out of it.

quote:

You aren't credited with the made basket, just that you passed him the ball.



And you get a very significant stat out of it.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 9:22 pm to
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And you get a very significant stat out of it.
Meh. The only stat that matters is what's on the scoreboard.

ETA: I feel that giving the QB 70 yards and a TD for throwing a screen pass doesn't show what actually happened. I would rather look at the stat line and see the QB went 15-25 with 125 yards and the WRs combined for 225 yards and 3 TDs. It shows me a better representation of what actually happened in the game.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 9:38 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Once a guy like Murray or McCarron get to the point they can make all the throws


I don't think he can make all the throws right now
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:06 pm to
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I would rather look at the stat line and see the QB went 15-25 with 125 yards and the WRs combined for 225 yards and 3 TDs. It shows me a better representation of what actually happened in the game.


Using your logic a receiver should not get yardage credit for catching a pass that a QB threw 50 yards in the air. Is that what you also meant?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/8/14 at 10:07 pm to
Except the receiver actually had to run those 50 yards and catch the ball.
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