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Mildly interesting stat - Dak Prescott
Posted on 2/6/14 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/6/14 at 9:44 am
These are the end results of drives...obviously some of them aren't Dak's fault, and some of them aren't due to him being great (long run by Robinson for instance).
All of these drives are Dak as the only QB in the drive. Around 55% of the drives with him as the QB ended in a scoring opportunity.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:00 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Would be even higher with a cognative human kicking field goals too..
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:01 am to Hardy_Har
Well it would be a higher % scoring...but not scoring opportunity.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:09 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
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Well it would be a higher % scoring...but not scoring opportunity.
I think there were times we went for it on 4th down because we didn't think we could make the FG. A better kicker would have increased the scoring opportunities slightly.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:10 am to Allyn McKeen
That's a good point. Although I think people are starting to find that going for it on 4th down is pretty advantageous in a lot of instances. Assuming good health, the offense should be fun to watch next season.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:15 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Are these Dak and Dak only complete drives I'm guessing?
Interceptions should come down next year, with an aging Reveiver corp and no more rhythm killing-desperation created by a weird 2 QB system.. Those shared drives don't have much clout IMO.
Interceptions should come down next year, with an aging Reveiver corp and no more rhythm killing-desperation created by a weird 2 QB system.. Those shared drives don't have much clout IMO.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:48 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
What I mean is I guess, I don't deem him as effective in the games where he didn't start.. (Egg Bowl caveat)
That may be stupid, but it just always seemed that way to me.
ETA: Kentucky and Bowling Green type shite
That may be stupid, but it just always seemed that way to me.
ETA: Kentucky and Bowling Green type shite
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:57 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
His results were markedly better in the Egg Bowl.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:00 am to sorantable
Field Position was awesome tho..
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:14 am to Hardy_Har
He really only had a rough game against South Carolina.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:26 am to Hardy_Har
Yeah -- we went out of our way to prevent him from ever finding a rhythm at times this year both in playcalling/substitutions -- and horrendous 3rd and long dropped passes that would have extended drives.
I think it's pretty safe to assume this is not even close to his ceiling. Seemed to me he got alot better as the year went along -- and the two sideline outs to De'Runnya in the Egg Bowl seemed to kinda be a "light bulb coming on" moment as a passer. If he can consistently hit that route, teams are not going to stop us -- we are going to have to stop ourselves.
I think it's pretty safe to assume this is not even close to his ceiling. Seemed to me he got alot better as the year went along -- and the two sideline outs to De'Runnya in the Egg Bowl seemed to kinda be a "light bulb coming on" moment as a passer. If he can consistently hit that route, teams are not going to stop us -- we are going to have to stop ourselves.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 1:26 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
I think the USC game took place the same week his mom died. Excuses and all, but that would have been tough for any kid to play under those conditions.
Still, those stats gave me a chubby.
Still, those stats gave me a chubby.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/6/14 at 3:56 pm to MadDoggyStyle
He made considerable improvement over the course of this year. I remember being terrified of him passing early on because of the questionable throws, he didn't make many of those by the end of the year.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:09 pm to skirpnasty
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He made considerable improvement over the course of this year. I remember being terrified of him passing early on because of the questionable throws, he didn't make many of those by the end of the year.
Early in the year he wanted to run QB keepers at people to knock the shite out of them because they were talking smack. I think he will still run over people, but hopefully, he will limit it to times when it is necessary.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:12 pm to Allyn McKeen
I was really impressed with the big bowl game completion to Jameon in the middle. He was flushed out of the pocket and could have scrambled for the first but held the composure to let Jameon come open, I don't think thats a play he would have made just a few games prior.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 4:22 pm to skirpnasty
This is why I want a real qb coach. Think if he improved that much more this year with his passing. But that will never happen if he doesn't get someone to help him with footwork and mechanics
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 2/6/14 at 5:52 pm to skirpnasty
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was really impressed with the big bowl game completion to Jameon in the middle
That's the "light coming on" engie was speaking of. Completions combined with no more Perkins 2 yd carries should elevate the offense pretty well. It'll also sharpen our D in the spring trying to cover him..
I hate to be a sunshine pumper, because I'm usually a negative nancy who breaks TV remotes but I feel warm and fuzzy about Dak this year.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:20 am to Hardy_Har
Adding this here because it's unworthy of a new thread, but I just figured these #s for the Heisman conversation on the Rant. Gives a little insight into what's got to happen for Dak to get serious consideration:
Tebow won at 9-3. RG3 won at 9-3.
Tebow stats that year(as a trSO):
210 rushes 895yds 23TD 4.26AVG
234-350(66.9%) 3286yds 32TD 6INT
Tebow played 560 of 586 total plays(95.56%). He was only out for 26 plays all year.
RG3 stats that year(as a rsJR):
179 rushes 699yds 10TD 3.91AVG
291-402(72.4%) 4293yds 37TD 6INT
RG3 played 581 of 608 total plays(95.55%). He was only out of the game for 27 plays all year.
Dak played 401 of 620 total plays(64.68%). He split a lot of time with Tyler Russell and missed basically 3 full games with injury. He also sat out the entire 4th quarter of several non conference games. He took about 30.88% less of his team's total snaps than RG3 and Tebow did.
Dak stats last year:
134 rushes 829yds 13TD 6.19AVG
156-267(58.4%) 1940yds 10TD 7INT
2rec 53yds 2TD
Extrapolated over a "full season" if he simply stays the same:
175 rushes 1085yds 17TD 6.19AVG
204-349(58.4%) 2539yds 13TD 9INT
3rec 69yds 3TD
Dak is in the conversation as a runner. His completion percentage needs to improve another 7-8%, he needs to cut down on the INTs, and he needs a couple of receivers to really, really step up and help him out. He's got to throw for about 3500 next year and account for alot more TDs through the air to have a legitimate chance. Also got to have a moment worthy of the Heisman in a big game -- which essentially means we've got to upset at least one of the big boys. All of that seems obtainable -- but it's alot to ask and certainly should go beyond any "expectation".
Tebow won at 9-3. RG3 won at 9-3.
Tebow stats that year(as a trSO):
210 rushes 895yds 23TD 4.26AVG
234-350(66.9%) 3286yds 32TD 6INT
Tebow played 560 of 586 total plays(95.56%). He was only out for 26 plays all year.
RG3 stats that year(as a rsJR):
179 rushes 699yds 10TD 3.91AVG
291-402(72.4%) 4293yds 37TD 6INT
RG3 played 581 of 608 total plays(95.55%). He was only out of the game for 27 plays all year.
Dak played 401 of 620 total plays(64.68%). He split a lot of time with Tyler Russell and missed basically 3 full games with injury. He also sat out the entire 4th quarter of several non conference games. He took about 30.88% less of his team's total snaps than RG3 and Tebow did.
Dak stats last year:
134 rushes 829yds 13TD 6.19AVG
156-267(58.4%) 1940yds 10TD 7INT
2rec 53yds 2TD
Extrapolated over a "full season" if he simply stays the same:
175 rushes 1085yds 17TD 6.19AVG
204-349(58.4%) 2539yds 13TD 9INT
3rec 69yds 3TD
Dak is in the conversation as a runner. His completion percentage needs to improve another 7-8%, he needs to cut down on the INTs, and he needs a couple of receivers to really, really step up and help him out. He's got to throw for about 3500 next year and account for alot more TDs through the air to have a legitimate chance. Also got to have a moment worthy of the Heisman in a big game -- which essentially means we've got to upset at least one of the big boys. All of that seems obtainable -- but it's alot to ask and certainly should go beyond any "expectation".
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:22 am to engie
I saw you repost that from the heisman thread.
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