OT: Anyone affiliated with Oconnee Co or Clarke Co Schools?

If you are special ed, and you have serious experience, you can work either.

By "serious experience" I don't mean credentials. I mean experience dealing with a 300 pound angry 19 year old that thinks you are hiding candy from him, and you can handle the situation without hitting the panic button.

One of my best friends does this... and was in Clarke for a while.

Brick, here's the deal.

I grew up in Clarke County and attended Clarke County schools. My wife started out in Clarke and her family moved to Oconee to get away from that cesspool. We live in Oconee now for the schools.

Clarke County schools have a VERY bad reputation. About a 25-35% dropout rate, kids from primarily poor African-American communities where the parents don't give a shite what their kids do and thus, the kids run buckwild. Lots of in-school violence, fights, etc. Saw my fair share of student-on-teacher violence in my day, too. And that was 20+ years ago. It's only gotten worse.

Oconee County...completely opposite. Most of the upper-class folks have moved away from Clarke to get their kids into Oconee (like my wife). It's not one of the best school districts in Georgia...it's arguably THE best district in Georgia. The grades are there, the test scores are there, the programs are there and the parents actually give a damn. And at the end of the day, it's the parental involvement that is going to make or break a teacher's will. Most teachers I know who have gotten burned out did so because they finally got tired of trying to be the voice of reason in a child's life where their home life counteracted all of their efforts.

Check these out to get a better picture. These are district ratings, but you can delve into individual schools as well.

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Bottom line: If she gets an offer to Oconee County, she needs to TAKE IT. And stay the hell outta Clarke if at all possible.

Sic em, with all due respect, go frick yourself. Its not black kids fricking up schools in Clarke.



Its mexicans.

Really? You grew up here 20 years ago?






Why don't you take a look at the demographics of Cleveland Elementary, in Bogart, Clarke County.


Today..... 2014.....

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Why don't you take a look at the demographics of Cleveland Elementary, in Bogart, Clarke County.


Today..... 2014.....

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Okay, I'll bite. Let's.

I LIVE in Bogart now (the Oconee side, only a few miles down the road from Cleveland Road). You're talking about WEST Athens and almost Oconee. Most of the upper-class who have chosen to remain in Clarke County are on the west side. I'm talking the district as a whole. Most of these schools are more central and the ones on the east side (Gaines, Hilsman and Cedar Shoals) are FUGGING HORRID.....TODAY. Are you really gonna argue this with me? The exodus into Oconee County is pretty well known within the area.

Oh I know ..... I'm saying it's racist for you to say its black people... the black people have been here for decades... the recent decline is mexican kids who's parents don't speak english at home, and they struggle in school, but get passed anyway because not passing them means you are racist and also lose money for your school.

I know teachers in bogart too....

Cleveland Rd Elem is 26% hispanic.

Not in Brownsville TX.

In Athens GA.


Those kids have parents who don't speak english. It is hard for them to learn in a school that speaks english. Their test scores are shite.

So yeah... if you are a good teacher, stay away from schools that need you... go chase money and easy work, because as we all know, teachers sacrifice their lives to educate our children, but only if it's easy and convenient, like totally, if your passion is teaching children, run away from the brown children and go get your paycheck in a vanilla suburb...

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Cleveland Rd Elem is 26% hispanic.

Not in Brownsville TX.

In Athens GA.

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Not sure your point here? My link is to the Bogart, GA school.

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Those kids have parents who don't speak english. It is hard for them to learn in a school that speaks english. Their test scores are shite.

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Okay, it's a valid hypothesis. Gwinnett County seems to be doing fine, though. Why? As a whole, they are 20% Hispanic and their schools, across the board, perform very well. You may well be right, but the Clarke district was very bad long before the recent influx of Hispanic students. They may not be helping the scores and graduation rates, but they aren't necessarily making them worse, either.

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So yeah... if you are a good teacher, stay away from schools that need you... go chase money and easy work, because as we all know, teachers sacrifice their lives to educate our children, but only if it's easy and convenient, like totally, if your passion is teaching children, run away from the brown children and go get your paycheck in a vanilla suburb...

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I'm looking at it from the perspective of wanting my wife to be safe in her work environment. If it were my wife, I would prefer that she not go the Clarke route. That is my opinion for the OP. Sorry, but that's the truth of the matter. Would you respect me more if I lied about that? That said, it's the teacher's decision and, fortunately, there are many good ones who brave the difficulties of the job in Athens because they WANT to be in the middle of the issues there and help to fix them. I respect that and yes, we need them. Unfortunately, though, these teachers have their work cut out for them.

Thanks. Kids want to be Dawgs like dad so we're trying to get back. I have friends in Bogart.

Not trying to be a dick but Sic em is 100% correct.
Went to both high schools in CC, Cedar Shoals and Clarke Central. Projects are a mother. Paldo, Nellie B, etc were the exact reason there was / is violence and black trash in Clarke county schools. I learned first hand what kind of fricked up kids came out of those hell holes.