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Arkansas stuck in two decades of mediocrity

Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:48 pm
LINK

Pretty good read by Gary Parrish.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:52 pm to
Yep, sucks. I grew up with Arkansas a national power. Played HORSE with my grandpa outside in the driveway during halftimes. And for twenty years, nothing.

I have become pretty apathetic, but basketball season used to be joyous.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:52 pm to
Nothing in that article that hasn't been rehashed on here countless times. We chose Stan Heath over Bill Self and effectively neutered our own program.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:55 pm to
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We chose Stan Heath over Bill Self and effectively neutered our own program.


Theory is Frank wanted to deemphasize basketball...
Posted by everytrueson
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:55 pm to
I didn't realize that USC is the only school who has had a longer sweet 16 drought.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:57 pm to
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I didn't realize that USC is the only school who has had a longer sweet 16 drought.



In the SEC?

Arkansas doesn't have near the final four drought of Bama.
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 12:59 pm to
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In the SEC?


Yes

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Arkansas doesn't have near the final four drought of Bama.


Not many do
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Not many do



Mizzou has you beat, based on appearances.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:02 pm to
Good read.

Arkansas was stupidly good in basketball in the early 90s.

They are a sleeping giant IMO. Just need to land the right coach.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:05 pm to
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Arkansas was stupidly good in basketball in the early 90s.



We were not only landing McD AAs at a good clip, many of them were redshirting.

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They are a sleeping giant IMO


Yes, but no commitment to the sport from the school to get it back to that level. It was like pulling teeth to get a practice facility/ operations center near the starting point of construction. A new football operations center, indoor baseball and track practice facility had to be be constructed first.

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Just need to land the right coach.


There have been larger problems than just the coach. Pelphrey set the program back to where Heath found it.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:06 pm to
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They are a sleeping giant IMO. Just need to land the right coach.

The last couple years of Mike has made me realize a very sad truth... 40 minutes of hell that I grew up loving so much is over. I know the hand check rule happened in '96, but I've kept holding onto the notion that style can be altered for rule changes and still be effective. I think it can be done, but it takes a very specific brand of coach and players. I don't know if we have either.



frick the hand check rule
Posted by blacknblu
Member since Nov 2011
10276 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Just need to land the right coach.

Right Coach, some Rockstar players and depth - we'll be back in this bisch
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:12 pm to
I always thought Arkansas started to suck when hand checking got banned.
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 1:13 pm
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:15 pm to
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40 minutes of hell that I grew up loving so much is over.


Yeah I don't think that's a sustainable brand of basketball when you face teams who are just as athletic but also fundamentally sound.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:15 pm to
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I always thought Arkansas started to suck when hand checking got banned.



A NCAA witch hunt took place breaking up the roster that went to the sweet16 and restricted our JUCO recruiting as well as other sanctions for the program.

The NCAA admitted they were wrong and allowed the players to transfer back with restored immediate eligibility, then the Herrod fricktard went through a divorce causing further sanctions to the football and basketball programs.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:16 pm to
I think its to the point where they have been neutered beyond repair. They'll never be a national power ever again. They were building something special, but they'll never get back to where they were.
Posted by BennyAndTheInkJets
Middle of a layover
Member since Nov 2010
5593 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:17 pm to
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I think its to the point where they have been neutered beyond repair. They'll never be a national power ever again. They were building something special, but they'll never get back to where they were

FaWx is back

ETA: yay
This post was edited on 1/30/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:19 pm to
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Pelphrey set the program back to where Heath found it.


Yep. Sadly, MA is trying to continue the trend.

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Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42346 posts
Posted on 1/30/14 at 1:19 pm to
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Yeah I don't think that's a sustainable brand of basketball when you face teams who are just as athletic but also fundamentally sound.



It can still be effective, just as much as any other style of play. Mike has had a hard time with turning the roster over due to the APR issues caused by Heath and Pel, he finally got the forwards in and has the guards lined up with more balanced recruiting classes in the future.

The roster he inherited wasn't assembled to play any style of play, it was Pel signing the best he could find and hoping something would work out on the court. He was forced to keep the guards as they should graduate this year, the tallest player on that roster was 6'6"-6'9", a couple of them, the guards were all around the 6' mark.
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