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Would the SEC change SECCG requirements if the rules are relaxed?

Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:17 am
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:17 am
ACC commish John Swofford is pushing for rule changes because the ACC title game has been such an abortion.

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If the NCAA lifted its title-game requirements, Swofford said the ACC would consider having the top two teams in the league play for the ACC championship, in addition to maintaining divisions, but not requiring teams to play every opponent in their division.

"If those requirements were lifted, it gives you much more flexibility in how you schedule," Swofford said. "I'm a proponent of the conferences having the autonomy to determine how they do those things."



Would the SEC do something similar though? Like have 2 permanent opponents, 3 rotating division opponents and 3 rotating cross division opponents (assuming 2 divisions and 8 game conference schedules) and take the top 2 records regardless of division?

iirc the way the rules are set up now would prevent a 16 team conference from having 4 divisions and forces the conference to either not have divisions or have 2 division of 8 teams

Changing the rules could open the door for the much ballyhooed 16 team superconferences giving them the ability to have 4 divisions and either set up a playoff of 4 division winner or (more likely imo) allow the conference championship game to have the two teams with the best record, regardless of division affiliation
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:19 am to
imo, the division requirement is pretty arbitrary. I think the waiver could be had.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:26 am to
I like the rules being consistent across conferences, otherwise it will be too difficult to know what the hell is going on.

Like conference games not counting or some crap.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:28 am to
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imo, the division requirement is pretty arbitrary. I think the waiver could be had.



I agree and think the rules will change, but it seems like a pretty drastic step to take just to improve ACCCG attendance

The ACC should just let the team with the best record host the championship game like the Pac-12 does because I don't think they'll be able to fill up Bank of America stadium on a regular basis
Posted by Granny Panties
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:35 am to
What would be the point of divisions if winning your division may not matter.

Sounds like a way for a 1 loss Alabama to always play in the conference championship, which sounds like bullshite.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:39 am to
It doesn't benefit conferences to have their two best teams in the CC game if you'd like to have two teams in the playoffs.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:41 am to
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The ACC should just let the team with the best record host the championship game like the PAC-12

This would guarantee a full stadium and I would have no problem with that. That's the best cure for their attendance problem.
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:45 am to
technically you shouldn't make the playoff if you can't win your division. Geeze. Do we have to go through this crap again? If AU loses to LSU next year and LSU runs the table then AU would SOL. You can't punish a team (they could lose) for playing in a conference title game while the other team kicks back and waits for the playoff.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:49 am to
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What would be the point of divisions if winning your division may not matter.



My guess is its easier to schedule

Instead of having to rotate 8 teams out of 13 for school A you split the teams into divisions and rotate 4 teams from each division.

I really do think the more important implication of a rule change is that it opens up conference to have 4 divisions of 4 teams and then they can take the top two records from any division without having to have a playoff for the conference championship though
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:53 am to
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This would guarantee a full stadium and I would have no problem with that. That's the best cure for their attendance problem.



Which makes me doubt very highly this is about the ACCCG being held in Charlotte or other neutral sites

Swofford's smart. I'm sure hes out to fry bigger fish than improved championship game attendance with this move. Especially since, as you pointed out, it would hurt the chances of getting two teams from his conference into the playoff
Posted by Granny Panties
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:56 am to
What if 4 teams from 4 separate divs have the exact same record? Do you take the two highest ranked teams? Does that imply that teams be forced to schedule extremely difficult OOC games? What if the division is weaker than the others to no fault of the best team in that division?

Seems unfair and only beneficial to perennial power teams like Bama.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 1:01 am
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:56 am to
Imagine if Clemson and FSU were able to get by SCar and UF and be 11-1 and 12-0 next year....he's not going to want them playing again in the CCG for sure.
Posted by droliver
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:12 am to
I think it's the realization that the ACC may need the best match-up to ensure they get into the final 4 every year with the new selection criteria. As is, at least one of the "Power 5" conference champs is on the sideline, and there would be years the SEC might have two of the top 4.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:27 am to
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What if 4 teams from 4 separate divs have the exact same record?


I'm sure they'd use head to head first and then go on to use similar tiebreakers as they use now Division record, record vs common opponents, etc
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