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Tenn fans - do you ever regret firing Fulmer?

Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:16 pm
It just feels like your program has tanked since he left. Fulmer wasn't winning championships at the end there but I could argue you were way more relevant than you are today.


This is not a flame.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68430 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:17 pm to
I honestly think Kiffin would have been ok there.
Posted by cecolacock
Columbia, SC
Member since Nov 2012
19 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:18 pm to
not a tenn fan but i think its less firing Fulmer and more hiring Kiffin. He is making his rounds, tenn, so cal, and now bama. And torching everything in his path.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 6:19 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:20 pm to
Fair enough, but I look at Fulmer's recruits in the NFL and some of his assistants (Chavis was always pretty solid) and I'm wondering if they should've just kept him. The players certainly wanted him.
Posted by OBReb6
Memphissippi
Member since Jul 2010
37672 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:21 pm to
I've never seen this thread before. You should make one asking OM fans if they regret firing Cutcliffe next.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:23 pm to
Not a Tennessee fan, but they've stated on here that towards the end of his UT career, he had gotten lazy...
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12259 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:23 pm to
I regret the timing and the following hire.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:25 pm to
It wasn't that they fired him. It was that they didn't have a plan in place to replace him and had to scramble. And that led to another scramble a year later.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31157 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

I regret the timing and the following hire.


Understandable. I do think things will turn around eventually. The foundation of the program is far too strong to stay this way long.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12259 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:31 pm to
This recruiting class is promising for the future. Hamilton being gone gives me the most hope
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:32 pm to
I regret that he was not fired after the debacle in 2005.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 6:37 pm to
I hate how he timing of how everything went down. If only a change had happened in the early to mid 2000s.

Definitely don't hate Fulmer. He took UT to the next level after the Majors' years.

Mike Hamilton should shoulder much of the blame from that whole fiasco. frick mike Hamilton.
Posted by ButchGetsIt
Member since Oct 2013
538 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:02 pm to
Should have fired him after the 2005 debacle. It was evident we were going to down the wrong path and nothing was changing.
But back then it wasn't popular to fire coaches after 1 bad season.

But it all falls on the shoulders of Mike Hamilton. That guy is easily one of the worst ADs in SEC history
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:06 pm to
Eh, kinda. I hate what had happened since then, but it had more to do with the hirings than the firing.

He hadn't won an SEC championship in over a decade when he was fired

#Richt
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23326 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:08 pm to
Was that when Cuttcilff came back as OC? And wasn't it when he left again that things went back downhill? Forgot that while timeline.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:09 pm to
No. There's a reason Kansas chose Weiss over Fulmer. And it's not because Fulmer wasn't trying to get the job.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42610 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

not a tenn fan but i think its less firing Fulmer and more hiring Kiffin. He is making his rounds, tenn, so cal, and now bama. And torching everything in his path.


THIS. We are where we are because of Kiffin. He set us back years. Had he not done what he did we'd already be back to normal.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:11 pm to
The problem was hiring a coach who left after a year and following it up by hiring a bottom 5 coach in SEC history, all sports included.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Was that when Cuttcilff came back as OC? And wasn't it when he left again that things went back downhill? Forgot that while timeline.



Cutcliffe left after the 98 season. VOLS win MNC without him.

99-01: Vols still recruiting, playing at a pretty high level.

02-04: a step back, caused some staff turnover.

2005: Total disaster. OC Randy Sanders fired.

06-07: Cutcliffe comes back. Vols win 9 and 10 games. Still never a real threat to win on the national level. Blown out by Bama and UF.

08: Clawson replaces Cutcliffe, produces one of worst offenses OAT. Fulmer fired.
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20828 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 7:12 pm to
Dooley set us back way further than Kiffin. Kiffin's few good recruits are the only reason Tennessee didn't go 0-8 in conference play back to back during Dooley's final two years.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 7:17 pm
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