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Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:21 am
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:21 am
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This is the start of a new round of complaining from sportswriters that we will be hearing over the next few years. One version will be when they realize that this new 4 team playoff raises more questions and is more unfair than the BCS, because there are more teams that have an argument for #4 than #2.

This column represents the second version of writer complaining. For years, they have whined: "We hate the bowls, give us a playoff" Now, it will be, "On no...we are losing the traditional Rose Bowl."
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:27 am to
Most sports writers are from the northeast or PAC12 fans. They want a playoff to stop SEC dominance of the NC, but they want the rose bowl because it reminds them of a time when the rust belt and SoCal were the axis this country revolved around.

Can't have it both ways.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 8:29 am
Posted by Stonehog
Platinum Rewards Club
Member since Aug 2011
33326 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:30 am to
Terrible article, I'm sorry I read it.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:30 am to
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Baylor vs. Missouri anyone?


is that no more cringe worthy than say a Nebraska vs. Utah 'traditional' rose bowl?

the playoff is going to be great for Jan 1st... it will bring back the excitement that has disappeared over the last decade or so.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:31 am to
DD;DNR.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:32 am to
The Rose Bowl has been an afterthought for about 10 years now. It has been and will be the only BCS bowl that I didn't bother to even watch a single play.
Posted by Fizzou
Member since Oct 2013
598 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:33 am to
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because there are more teams that have an argument for #4 than #2.

That's a silly perspective to have. The point of the playoff is to crown the "best team" as champion. The "best team" is less likely to be left out in a playoff than in the BCS because 4 teams are chosen rather than just 2.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:38 am to
If the choices by the playoff committee are as political as I expect, we will see the four "best" conference champs every year. 16 would be too many games. Nothing is perfect with 119 teams of such differing schedules, but 8 is as good as it can get.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:40 am to
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The Rose Bowl has been an afterthought for about 10 years now. It has been and will be the only BCS bowl that I didn't bother to even watch a single play.



I didn't watch much of but I did notice several sportswriters jizz themselves over Stanford. Clay Travis and Pete Thamel in particular, and those bastards are the first ones to call Bama's offense boring.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12340 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Most sports writers are from the northeast or PAC12 fans. They want a playoff to stop SEC dominance of the NC, but they want the rose bowl because it reminds them of a time when the rust belt and SoCal were the axis this country revolved around.

Can't have it both ways.


Very well put.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12340 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:42 am to
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is that no more cringe worthy than say a Nebraska vs. Utah 'traditional' rose bowl?

the playoff is going to be great for Jan 1st... it will bring back the excitement that has disappeared over the last decade or so.


This.

The only excitement I get out of NYD anymore is watching SEC teams and my own when we're there. Otherwise, I'm sort of meh on games like the the Rose and Fiesta unless they're compelling matchups, which they weren't this year. I take guilty pleasure in rooting against the Big Ten because their failures make sportswriters go crazy, but that's about it.
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 8:43 am
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12340 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:45 am to
quote:

The Rose Bowl has been an afterthought for about 10 years now. It has been and will be the only BCS bowl that I didn't bother to even watch a single play.



I was almost right there with you. I watched the first drive by Stanford and the last drive that resulted in the 4th down stop, but didn't watch a snap between those two drives.
Posted by Fizzou
Member since Oct 2013
598 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:47 am to
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If the choices by the playoff committee are as political as I expect, we will see the four "best" conference champs every year. 16 would be too many games. Nothing is perfect with 119 teams of such differing schedules, but 8 is as good as it can get.

I agree that 8 would be better. With 8 teams, it is even less likely that the "best team" gets left out. But whether or not the teams are chosen for political reasons is a separate and distinct issue from the number of teams chosen. Personally, I'd perfer the BCSCG selection process to continue, with the top 4 teams (or 8, whenever that inevitable expansion happens) making it into the playoff.

Edit: clarity
This post was edited on 1/2/14 at 8:50 am
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22365 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:48 am to
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Clay Travis and Pete Thamel in particular, and those bastards are the first ones to call Bama's offense boring.


to a lot of sportswriters, Stanford represents sort of an anti-SEC alternative... but the fact is they're a very good football team that lacks explosiveness on offense and a consistency at the QB.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19181 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:53 am to
didn't read.

There is a pretty sizable team talent dropoff when we look at teams 4-6.

There's always going to be gnashing of teeth, but those first 3 spots are going to be salty teams. The best will win on the field.

Winning a championship on the field through multiple rounds is ALWAYS better than getting to a game solely based upon computer rankings and human polls.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20282 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 8:59 am to
Lol was anyone really living and dying with every play of the rose bowl, other than the respective teams' fans? It lost its luster long ago.

I think it will be a unique experience with it being a playoff game as well as "The Rose Bowl".
Posted by recstar7
Bahamas
Member since Sep 2011
1094 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 9:03 am to
Michigan state #1
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