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The Perfect College Football Team
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:00 am
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:00 am
I find myself envious of Auburn...... Yes, you heard me right. 
No, Auburn is far from the perfect team because their defense is mediocre compared to their offense but Malzahn's offense is obviously one of the best the country with the right QB and Marshall has clearly become that guy.
The perfect team would have an Alabama or LSU type defense and an Auburn or Oregon type offense with Alabama special teams proficiency (disregarding Saban's oversight in the Auburn game). Yes, the pro-set still reigns supreme in the NFL but even the pros are taking advantage of mobile QB's in spread offenses these days.
While, Richt's/Bobo's offense at Georgia is good/adequate in most cases, ironically it has lacked the power running game that can make an I-formation offense dominant. And yes, we do have a balanced offense but must of our yards and TD's have come from passing plays, thus Murray's outstanding statistics. The obvious question is why with so many outstanding RB's like Gurley, Marshall, Crowell, Moreno, etc? The answer: insufficient performance on the OL.
Dominant offenses dominate due to OL play and Auburn is no exception. Auburn has very good skill players on offense but the reason they were in the game to the end with Bama was that their OL controlled the LOS against a stout Bama DL to the tune of over 300 yards rushing.
Honestly, I can't help but be discouraged about our future prospects. We never seem to recruit well enough in the trenches on both sides of the ball and coaching has been lacking on defense for many years. We also never seem to get enough stud DB's nor to we get smart/stud LB's who serve as a QB on the field for the defense.
I don't even want to talk about special teams but it seems that we will always be good but never good enough in all three aspects of the game, offense, defense and special teams, to win another SECC or NC.
Please, some Disney, offer some measure of hope.
No, Auburn is far from the perfect team because their defense is mediocre compared to their offense but Malzahn's offense is obviously one of the best the country with the right QB and Marshall has clearly become that guy. The perfect team would have an Alabama or LSU type defense and an Auburn or Oregon type offense with Alabama special teams proficiency (disregarding Saban's oversight in the Auburn game). Yes, the pro-set still reigns supreme in the NFL but even the pros are taking advantage of mobile QB's in spread offenses these days.
While, Richt's/Bobo's offense at Georgia is good/adequate in most cases, ironically it has lacked the power running game that can make an I-formation offense dominant. And yes, we do have a balanced offense but must of our yards and TD's have come from passing plays, thus Murray's outstanding statistics. The obvious question is why with so many outstanding RB's like Gurley, Marshall, Crowell, Moreno, etc? The answer: insufficient performance on the OL.
Dominant offenses dominate due to OL play and Auburn is no exception. Auburn has very good skill players on offense but the reason they were in the game to the end with Bama was that their OL controlled the LOS against a stout Bama DL to the tune of over 300 yards rushing.
Honestly, I can't help but be discouraged about our future prospects. We never seem to recruit well enough in the trenches on both sides of the ball and coaching has been lacking on defense for many years. We also never seem to get enough stud DB's nor to we get smart/stud LB's who serve as a QB on the field for the defense.
I don't even want to talk about special teams but it seems that we will always be good but never good enough in all three aspects of the game, offense, defense and special teams, to win another SECC or NC.
Please, some Disney, offer some measure of hope.
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:02 am to davesdawgs
Yeah, bama's ST are just stellar... Their FG kicker might be best I've never seen...
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:07 am to Kneehigh
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Yeah, bama's ST are just stellar... Their FG kicker might be best I've never seen...
Foster had just missed 1 FG the entire season leading up to that game but don't let the facts/data get in the way of your bashing. Alabama is 4th in the nation in special teams defense this season. LINK
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:12 am to davesdawgs
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The Perfect College Football Team
Overall #1 ranked offense, defense, and special teams.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:18 am to davesdawgs
I think I've read like 5 different versions of this same thread.
These two things can't coexist. Fatigue sets in defensively at some point.
More like all cases with our personnel. We score plenty of points at great efficiency compared to most high scoring spread attacks.
We recruit as well in the trenches and secondary as anybody outside of Alabama. I would argue that our coaching/development really suffers in those departments. Also, we just had two linebackers drafted in the first round and have 4 future draft picks currently starting for us. We don't have CJ Mosley, but only one team does.
Our STs suck outside of our FG kicker. I just don't know how much benefit we'd get from hiring a ST coach versus firing a current coach.
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The perfect team would have an Alabama or LSU type defense and an Auburn or Oregon type offense
These two things can't coexist. Fatigue sets in defensively at some point.
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While, Richt's/Bobo's offense at Georgia is good/adequate in most cases,
More like all cases with our personnel. We score plenty of points at great efficiency compared to most high scoring spread attacks.
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. We never seem to recruit well enough in the trenches on both sides of the ball and coaching has been lacking on defense for many years. We also never seem to get enough stud DB's nor to we get smart/stud LB's who serve as a QB on the field for the defense.
We recruit as well in the trenches and secondary as anybody outside of Alabama. I would argue that our coaching/development really suffers in those departments. Also, we just had two linebackers drafted in the first round and have 4 future draft picks currently starting for us. We don't have CJ Mosley, but only one team does.
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I don't even want to talk about special teams but it seems that we will always be good but never good enough in all three aspects of the game, offense, defense and special teams, to win another SECC or NC.
Our STs suck outside of our FG kicker. I just don't know how much benefit we'd get from hiring a ST coach versus firing a current coach.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:22 am to davesdawgs
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The perfect team would have an Alabama or LSU type defense and an Auburn or Oregon type offense
You realize that you just described FSU, right?
Ranked 2nd in points for (53.7/game) and 1st in points against (11/game).
Has defeated ALL BUT ONE opponent by AT LEAST 28 points.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:37 am to Crowknowsbest
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I think I've read like 5 different versions of this same thread.
Links? I'd like to read them.
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The perfect team would have an Alabama or LSU type defense and an Auburn or Oregon type offense
These two things can't coexist. Fatigue sets in defensively at some point.
Please explain. Malzahn's offense produces a lot more rushing yards than ours. As such they control the clock and keep their defense off the field. But yea, you could argue that Oregon's offense is a bit too quick-strike at times.
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While, Richt's/Bobo's offense at Georgia is good/adequate in most cases,
More like all cases with our personnel. We score plenty of points at great efficiency compared to most high scoring spread attacks.
I agree we scored enough to win every game this season but we rely too much on our passing game and have too many 3 and outs when we need to be keeping our crappy defense off the field.
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We recruit as well in the trenches and secondary as anybody outside of Alabama. I would argue that our coaching/development really suffers in those departments. Also, we just had two linebackers drafted in the first round and have 4 future draft picks currently starting for us. We don't have CJ Mosley, but only one team does.
Sorry, I just don't see it. Maybe it is all coaching but our OL and DL have been middle of the pack in the SEC for a long time. Without doing an extensive analysis, I would take: Alabama's, Auburn's, Missouri's, SC's and LSU's OL over ours. Meanwhile, Georgia is 74th in rushing offense this season. LINK
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:42 am to S1C EM
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The perfect team would have an Alabama or LSU type defense and an Auburn or Oregon type offense
You realize that you just described FSU, right?
Ranked 2nd in points for (53.7/game) and 1st in points against (11/game).
Has defeated ALL BUT ONE opponent by AT LEAST 28 points.
Agree but other than Clemson, who has FSU played that's really worthy? FSU might well be the best team in the nation but they are going to have to prove it against the best in the SEC for me to believe it. Unfortunately that team is probably Alabama and that won't be happening. I really don't think Auburn has a good enough defense to match up well with FSU. Missouri might actually stand a better chance if OSU falls to MSU but I don't think Franklin is a good enough QB to beat that stout FSU defense.
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Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:43 am to WG_Dawg
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The Perfect College Football Team
Overall #1 ranked offense, defense, and special teams.
Yep, who has played a tough schedule; stats can be misleading when compiled against inferior competition.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:47 am to davesdawgs
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Links? I'd like to read them.
This one's slightly different, but there have been a few threads about switching to the spread offense, recruiting better in the trenches, etc.
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Please explain. Malzahn's offense produces a lot more rushing yards than ours. As such they control the clock and keep their defense off the field. But yea, you could argue that Oregon's offense is a bit too quick-strike at times.
Look at what happened to AU's D in the fourth quarter against us. We made a couple defensive stops and all of a sudden they were a sieve.
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I agree we scored enough to win every game this season but we rely too much on our passing game and have too many 3 and outs when we need to be keeping our crappy defense off the field.
I think you should have more of a problem with our crappy defense than a few three and outs. Those happen to every offense.
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Sorry, I just don't see it. Maybe it is all coaching but our OL and DL have been middle of the pack in the SEC for a long time. Without doing an extensive analysis, I would take: Alabama's, Auburn's, Missouri's, SC's and LSU's OL over ours. Meanwhile, Georgia is 74th in rushing offense this season. LINK
I think UGA's coaching really suffers in those departments. We recruit way better than Missouri and USCe, and pretty much all of our contributors had offers from Bama, AU, FSU, etc. We have players, our coaching just seems to suck in some areas.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:57 am to davesdawgs
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Agree but other than Clemson, who has FSU played that's really worthy?
Miami may not be #7 any longer, but they were a different team when FSU played them. They were dismantled. Granted, Maryland fell way off the map after getting beaten by FSU, but they were #25 at the time and were pasted 63-0. That would have been impressive against North Texas. If Georgia played their schedule this year, they don't beat any of those opponents by 28 or more. The one common opponent was Clemson and you can see the difference. At full strength, maybe we win, but it was still gonna be close. FSU had them down 51-7 with about two minutes to play when Clemson managed a garbage TD (IN Death Valley no less).
FSU can hang with anyone in the SEC. Bama is/was overrated from the get-go. They are not the best team in the SEC. Auburn may have won on an unlikely play against them, but even to that point, the two teams were playing in-step with each other. Auburn is easily Bama's equal.
Again, think about that statistic. Forget that the conference, as a whole, is weaker than the SEC. Beating EVERY opponent by a minimum of 28 (save one) is nuts. That doesn't matter who you play or what conference you're in. I mean, when's the last time Georgia, Bama, LSU, et al scored 80 on ANYONE?
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:00 am to davesdawgs
Based on what I've seen about where the coaches are spending their time this week, they've been laying some serious groundwork on the 2015-16 OL/DL kids. You can't necessarily fix it all with this incoming class, but I'd like to hold out hope that folks like Chuma Edoga and Ben Cleveland can help contribute to the thing that we'll have been crying about for ten solid years.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:03 am to S1C EM
Bama's weakness, other than WTF special teams in critical games, is lack of innovation on offense. Two times they simply tried to pile-drive off tackle on 4th and 1 against Auburn only to be stone-walled. When the game is on the line against a fired up defense in their home stadium, you have to invoke innovation on offense.
As for FSU, they are statistically the best team in the nation, I agree. It will be interesting to see if that translates into a NC. FSU has multiple top 5 recruiting classes and have underachieved mightily up to this point; they are definitely due.
As for FSU, they are statistically the best team in the nation, I agree. It will be interesting to see if that translates into a NC. FSU has multiple top 5 recruiting classes and have underachieved mightily up to this point; they are definitely due.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:08 am to davesdawgs
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It will be interesting to see if that translates into a NC.
I don't think there's any question that it does. I just hope that they face the SEC winner because beating OSU won't prove anything to anyone.
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FSU has multiple top 5 recruiting classes and have underachieved mightily up to this point
Agreed. I think Winston was the piece that was missing.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:11 am to davesdawgs
You should be envious of Auburn....
its coaching.
This AU team is the perfect example of how a coach with the right mentality can not only get his team winning, but the team buys in and has confidence and swagger. You know what I saw last weekend? I saw a AU team..who is tremendously out gunned against Bama at almost every position, maybe except Running back, beat Bama. They played their asses off...against the stiffest competition they faced all year with the poise and confidence of a team that BELIEVES in themselves and their coach.
This is what UGA hasn't had in sometime. I saw a bit of it after the UF win last year, but its been awhile. They are rolling. There atheletes are not any better than ours. ITs coaching..its team mentality..its confidence. I truly believe we have none of this, or some in small doses.
I honestly believe there could have been some animosity on the UGA team this year. No way the offense and defense were getting a long great when almost every loss we had this year can be attribute by ridiculously bad defensive play.
How would you feel. I'd be pissed. There is no way to beuild team chemistry when this happens.
tldr: People underestimate the power of a coach who has his team believing they can win and playing with edge. IT bests talent a lot of times and did last saturday.
its coaching.
This AU team is the perfect example of how a coach with the right mentality can not only get his team winning, but the team buys in and has confidence and swagger. You know what I saw last weekend? I saw a AU team..who is tremendously out gunned against Bama at almost every position, maybe except Running back, beat Bama. They played their asses off...against the stiffest competition they faced all year with the poise and confidence of a team that BELIEVES in themselves and their coach.
This is what UGA hasn't had in sometime. I saw a bit of it after the UF win last year, but its been awhile. They are rolling. There atheletes are not any better than ours. ITs coaching..its team mentality..its confidence. I truly believe we have none of this, or some in small doses.
I honestly believe there could have been some animosity on the UGA team this year. No way the offense and defense were getting a long great when almost every loss we had this year can be attribute by ridiculously bad defensive play.
How would you feel. I'd be pissed. There is no way to beuild team chemistry when this happens.
tldr: People underestimate the power of a coach who has his team believing they can win and playing with edge. IT bests talent a lot of times and did last saturday.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:23 am to Sandwich
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You should be envious of Auburn....
its coaching.
This AU team is the perfect example of how a coach with the right mentality can not only get his team winning, but the team buys in and has confidence and swagger. You know what I saw last weekend? I saw a AU team..who is tremendously out gunned against Bama at almost every position, maybe except Running back, beat Bama. They played their asses off...against the stiffest competition they faced all year with the poise and confidence of a team that BELIEVES in themselves and their coach.
This is what UGA hasn't had in sometime. I saw a bit of it after the UF win last year, but its been awhile. They are rolling. There atheletes are not any better than ours. ITs coaching..its team mentality..its confidence. I truly believe we have none of this, or some in small doses.
I honestly believe there could have been some animosity on the UGA team this year. No way the offense and defense were getting a long great when almost every loss we had this year can be attribute by ridiculously bad defensive play.
How would you feel. I'd be pissed. There is no way to beuild team chemistry when this happens.
tldr: People underestimate the power of a coach who has his team believing they can win and playing with edge. IT bests talent a lot of times and did last saturday.
Well stated.
In the case of Auburn, there's no doubt that this is true because they have very close to the same team this season as the team last season that did not win a single SEC game. But like the team that won the NC with Cam Newton, Malzahn has found another perfect missing cog in the wheel in Nick Marshall. Clearly Malzahn's coaching has been the difference for Auburn.This post was edited on 12/6/13 at 11:34 am
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:30 am to davesdawgs
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You should be envious of Auburn....
24-1 when starting a QB kicked off another team for stealing.
Saw this tweeted yesterday. Had to chuckle a little.
Posted on 12/6/13 at 11:35 am to S1C EM
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You should be envious of Auburn....
24-1 when starting a QB kicked off another team for stealing.
Saw this tweeted yesterday. Had to chuckle a little.
Yea, and the funny thing is it's absolutely true that other teams take the castoffs out of the state of Georgia and make winners out of them.
Posted on 12/7/13 at 7:39 am to davesdawgs
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Foster had just missed 1 FG the entire season leading up to that game but don't let the facts/data get in the way of your bashing. A
Ummm...yes. But he also had only made 8 and attempted 9 before that. Pretty low number to base that off, isn't it? And, when the chips are down and kind of...well...messed up. I'm not one to kick a kid when he is down, but FG kickers have cost Alabama 2 HUGE games in the last 3 years. It cost them in the 9-6 LSU game, too, and that COULD have cost them the National Championship, too. You have to admit, that had this happened at UGA you guys would have had a meltdown of epic proportions screaming about our FG kicker.
Posted on 12/7/13 at 7:40 am to davesdawgs
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Yea, and the funny thing is it's absolutely true that other teams take the castoffs out of the state of Georgia and make winners out of them.
This post was edited on 12/7/13 at 7:42 am
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