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Chiz opens up about his firing
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:40 pm
Interesting.
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It was really the perfect storm scenario and if you stay in coaching long enough sometimes you hit a perfect storm scenario. I think it was that.
If you start out and look from a roster standpoint, in 2010 after we won the national championship we lost somewhere in the area of 27 players – 24 seniors and our three best juniors in Cam (Newton), Nick (Fairley) and Darvin Adams. And when you lose that many players, you're basically starting over. So we knew 2011 and 2012 we could take some lumps in both of those years. We felt that. Obviously not to the degree that it happened in 2012, but again, we knew those two years would be basically starting over.
So you have that on one front. From an X and O front, you had two brand new coordinators coming in, which we knew that takes time and that you have to go through some growing pains. That's just the way it is.
What we probably didn't anticipate was, we didn't anticipate the struggles at quarterback. And we struggled mightily at quarterback, to the point where the last four or five games we started a true freshman. And you now in this league, that's just hard.
So you've got new coordinators, struggles at the quarterback position, and if you just look at this league, the teams that play at a high level, you're getting high-level quarterback play
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Q: I imagine after LSU (a 12-10 loss) you probably felt OK?
A: I felt like we were making progress, but the same thing happened on the road at Ole Miss. Same thing happened on the road at Vandy, which had the best team they've had in the history of the school. But we're still in the game in the fourth quarter with a chance to win and can't pull it out.
There was just momentum issues that you need, particularly when you have new coordinators and new quarterbacks
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I was the winningest coach in the history of the school my first three years with three bowl wins and a national championship. So when you ask the question, did you ever dream in a million years that you wouldn't have time, absolutely not.
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:41 pm to Alahunter
Good read. Gene is a good guy. Just didn't work out.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:42 pm to Alahunter
Gene throwing the heat.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:43 pm to Alahunter
Frazier crapped the bed, they didn't anticipate the Arkansas HS all time leader in passing yards to forget how to throw forward.
I don't feel too bad for him, he is a millionaire, won a NC and coaches football for a living.
I don't feel too bad for him, he is a millionaire, won a NC and coaches football for a living.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:44 pm to Alahunter
I take full responsibility for everything that happened at Auburn, period.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:46 pm to Alahunter
Somewhere I felt he should have stated "I owe all of my success at AU to Malzahn, when he left, so did team unity and discipline."
The writing was on the wall when Malzahn took a pay cut to become a head coach at ASU.
The writing was on the wall when Malzahn took a pay cut to become a head coach at ASU.
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:49 pm to Alahunter
I don't understand why you bolded what you did. Is that new info to you?
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:50 pm to Weagle25
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I don't understand why you bolded what you did
You have not learned his schtick yet?
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:54 pm to Alahunter
I hate to say this but he sounds a lot like Shug. 
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:54 pm to AUsteriskPride
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Somewhere I felt he should have stated "I owe all of my success at AU to Malzahn, when he left, so did team unity and discipline."
The writing was on the wall when Malzahn took a pay cut to become a head coach at ASU.
Never liked Chizik. His program seemed like a program run by the players.
Malzahn seems tough to dislike.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:56 pm to parkjas2001
Oh I got it now. I don't think we have struggles at Quaterback and I don't consider Malzahn to be a new Coordinator so I didn't get what he was trying to get at. Now I see. Flame on Hunter.
Let's listen to the guy who didn't make S&C mandatory for our players. Sounds logical.
Let's listen to the guy who didn't make S&C mandatory for our players. Sounds logical.
This post was edited on 11/26/13 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:56 pm to parkjas2001
Gene seemed to be a down to earth kind of guy. The lack of teeth and the dental smock did kinda freak me out occasionally.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:57 pm to Alahunter
quote:excuses, excuses.
And when you lose that many players, you're basically starting over.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 2:58 pm to Alahunter
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I was the winningest coach in the history of the school my first three years with three bowl wins and a national championship.
This is where his ego cost him IMO. He was 22-5 after his first 2 seasons at Auburn and no one was talking about him. Everyone believed the credit for 2010 should have been shared between Malzahn and Newton. He was always left out. This hurt his ego a bit and so he began reining in Malzahn.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:04 pm to Tigertown in ATL
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Never liked Chizik. His program seemed like a program run by the boosters.
FIFY - but hey the inside recruiting information was the very best under Chizik. Those leaks were huge and solid. One of the benefits for fans of having the boosters run your program.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:05 pm to Alahunter
Gene would have beaten Les
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:07 pm to RollTide1987
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This is where his ego cost him IMO.
He comes across as a "nice guy", but I never got the vibe that he was real. He had a huge ego, but along with that ego, he was a very insecure and timid person IMO.
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Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:09 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
quote:Pretty much like Bama under DuBose. Especially when they pick the starting QB for you.
One of the benefits for fans of having the boosters run your program.
quote:OK Schwaazy, I'll bite: how so?
I hate to say this but he sounds a lot like Shug.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:23 pm to Nortizzle
One Legit reason was the absolute TOTAL train wreck Scott Loeffler turned out to be at OC. Thats on Chiz for hiring him though.
Posted on 11/26/13 at 3:28 pm to Pavoloco83
Chizik just isn't a good head coach, plain and simple. He hit a home-run in Malzahn, who made him look competent. Even Roof might have played a part in keeping structure within the program, but it is less obvious if so. Within a year, the whole foundation of the Chizik era was ripped from underneath him.
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