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I'll attempt to rank the SEC (basketball) in an order that actually makes sense
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:33 pm
1. Kentucky: Loaded with talent. Randle is a beast. James Young looks like an elite scorer. The Harrison twins are dangerous. They have three centers who will go in the first round. I'm not sure how this team will come together, but they have an unfair amount of talent.
2. Florida: The team you've seen over the first few games won't be the team you'll see in January. Wilbekin should be back soon, and Hill should be healthy by SEC play. Our guard play is weak right now, and having two of the best PGs in the conference back should round out one of the best teams in the SEC and the country.
3. LSU: Jones has quickly brought in a ton of talent. Jordan Mickey has made his presence felt quickly, and Jarell Martin is a possible one-and-done. They have an experienced, albeit undersized backcourt with Hickey and Stringer. Freshman Tim Quarterman has been starting at PG over Hickey thus far, but I'm not sure how much longer that will last.
4. Alabama: Trevor Releford is the best scorer in the SEC, bar none. Yes, that includes Marshall Henderson. Retin Obasohan will be their version of Russell Westbrook. Insane athlete. They have a bunch of other athletic guards and wings, and should be one of the better defensive teams in the country. With their athleticism, you'd expect them to run, and surprisingly enough, that's what they've been doing so far this season.
5. Tennessee: On paper, they're easily the third best team in the conference, but they've been fairly unimpressive thus far. Barton is a good shooter, but how well will he initiate the offense for UT? Stokes and Maymon form one of the best frontcourt duos in the country, but who does UT have behind those two?
6. Arkansas: If they could play every game at home, they'd be much higher on this list. Michael Qualls has made the jump from role player to star, and that should help minimize the scoring void that BJ Young and Marshawn Powell left. They're much better in the frontcourt this season than they've been in the past, with stud freshman Bobby Portis and undersized banger Alandise Harris.
7. Missouri: There is a lot of talent here, but Frank Haith's teams have traditionally underachieved. Freshman PG Wes Clark has been good thus far, but it's unreasonable to expect him to match Pressey's production right away (ducks). They're replacing one of the SEC's best frontcourt duos in Oriakhi and Bowers, and I expect them to struggle a bit against better competition.
8. Vanderbilt: No one had any expectations for them coming into the season, but they've been solid thus far. They gave an alright Butler team all they could handle on the road, losing in OT. Eric McClellan isn't a true PG, but he can score and will attempt to replace Kedren Johnson's production. Rod Odom has emerged as a three-point sniper thus far. Damian Jones is a bit raw, but you can see the potential. In a few years, he'll be an All-SEC big.
9. Ole Miss: Marshall Henderson will have to lead this team. They have some decent complementary pieces and some young players with potential, but they might struggle this season due to a lack of a solid second and third offensive option. Jarvis Summers has to step up and consistently be one of those options. Their frontcourt should be solid in the rebounding and defense departments, but don't expect the trio of Aaron Jones, Demarco Cox, and Sebastian Saiz to come anywhere close to matching the offensive production of Murphy Holloway and Reginald Buckner.
10. Texas A&M: Big drop off from 9. They've been squeaking by really bad opponents thus far (3 point win over a miserable Rice team). They have a bunch of athletes, but are very raw skill wise. They'll probably be a team who is decent at home and miserable on the road.
11. Mississippi State: This is pretty much last season's Mississippi State team with a year of experience. Gavin Ware has the potential to be an All-SEC big. Craig Sword and Fred Thomas are athletic wings. Colin Borchert is a solid stretch four. Beyond those four, they don't have much.
12. South Carolina: I'm sure Frank Martin knew that he was taking on a really tough challenge when he left Kansas State. Nothing has changed. South Carolina was an absolutely miserable program under Darrin Horn, and Martin has a mutli-year rebuild underway. He brought in a huge class this past season, and the majority of his roster consists of freshman. They're more talented than your average bottom feeder, but they'll struggle due to the absolute dearth of meaningful experience.
13. Georgia: Imagine last season's team without KCP. That's this season's team. Ouch.
14. Auburn: They gave up 72 points in the second half to Northwestern State. lol
tl;dr:
NCAA teams (seed) - UK (1), UF (3), LSU (7), Alabama (10), Tennessee (11)
NIT Teams - Arkansas, Mizzou, Vandy, Ole Miss
2. Florida: The team you've seen over the first few games won't be the team you'll see in January. Wilbekin should be back soon, and Hill should be healthy by SEC play. Our guard play is weak right now, and having two of the best PGs in the conference back should round out one of the best teams in the SEC and the country.
3. LSU: Jones has quickly brought in a ton of talent. Jordan Mickey has made his presence felt quickly, and Jarell Martin is a possible one-and-done. They have an experienced, albeit undersized backcourt with Hickey and Stringer. Freshman Tim Quarterman has been starting at PG over Hickey thus far, but I'm not sure how much longer that will last.
4. Alabama: Trevor Releford is the best scorer in the SEC, bar none. Yes, that includes Marshall Henderson. Retin Obasohan will be their version of Russell Westbrook. Insane athlete. They have a bunch of other athletic guards and wings, and should be one of the better defensive teams in the country. With their athleticism, you'd expect them to run, and surprisingly enough, that's what they've been doing so far this season.
5. Tennessee: On paper, they're easily the third best team in the conference, but they've been fairly unimpressive thus far. Barton is a good shooter, but how well will he initiate the offense for UT? Stokes and Maymon form one of the best frontcourt duos in the country, but who does UT have behind those two?
6. Arkansas: If they could play every game at home, they'd be much higher on this list. Michael Qualls has made the jump from role player to star, and that should help minimize the scoring void that BJ Young and Marshawn Powell left. They're much better in the frontcourt this season than they've been in the past, with stud freshman Bobby Portis and undersized banger Alandise Harris.
7. Missouri: There is a lot of talent here, but Frank Haith's teams have traditionally underachieved. Freshman PG Wes Clark has been good thus far, but it's unreasonable to expect him to match Pressey's production right away (ducks). They're replacing one of the SEC's best frontcourt duos in Oriakhi and Bowers, and I expect them to struggle a bit against better competition.
8. Vanderbilt: No one had any expectations for them coming into the season, but they've been solid thus far. They gave an alright Butler team all they could handle on the road, losing in OT. Eric McClellan isn't a true PG, but he can score and will attempt to replace Kedren Johnson's production. Rod Odom has emerged as a three-point sniper thus far. Damian Jones is a bit raw, but you can see the potential. In a few years, he'll be an All-SEC big.
9. Ole Miss: Marshall Henderson will have to lead this team. They have some decent complementary pieces and some young players with potential, but they might struggle this season due to a lack of a solid second and third offensive option. Jarvis Summers has to step up and consistently be one of those options. Their frontcourt should be solid in the rebounding and defense departments, but don't expect the trio of Aaron Jones, Demarco Cox, and Sebastian Saiz to come anywhere close to matching the offensive production of Murphy Holloway and Reginald Buckner.
10. Texas A&M: Big drop off from 9. They've been squeaking by really bad opponents thus far (3 point win over a miserable Rice team). They have a bunch of athletes, but are very raw skill wise. They'll probably be a team who is decent at home and miserable on the road.
11. Mississippi State: This is pretty much last season's Mississippi State team with a year of experience. Gavin Ware has the potential to be an All-SEC big. Craig Sword and Fred Thomas are athletic wings. Colin Borchert is a solid stretch four. Beyond those four, they don't have much.
12. South Carolina: I'm sure Frank Martin knew that he was taking on a really tough challenge when he left Kansas State. Nothing has changed. South Carolina was an absolutely miserable program under Darrin Horn, and Martin has a mutli-year rebuild underway. He brought in a huge class this past season, and the majority of his roster consists of freshman. They're more talented than your average bottom feeder, but they'll struggle due to the absolute dearth of meaningful experience.
13. Georgia: Imagine last season's team without KCP. That's this season's team. Ouch.
14. Auburn: They gave up 72 points in the second half to Northwestern State. lol
tl;dr:
NCAA teams (seed) - UK (1), UF (3), LSU (7), Alabama (10), Tennessee (11)
NIT Teams - Arkansas, Mizzou, Vandy, Ole Miss
This post was edited on 11/22/13 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:34 pm to GatorsGators
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Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:36 pm to GatorsGators
Murph was okay offensively but Buckner was a disaster unless he dunked it.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:38 pm to GatorsGators
Anxious to see if we can even compete with Duke...at least give them a good game. If we can keep it within 10 I would be pleased, but a big upset win would knock my socks off with joy.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:39 pm to GatorsGators
Arkansas is better than LSU, Bama, and Tennessee...
Can't wait til tip off in Maui this Monday against Cal.
Can't wait til tip off in Maui this Monday against Cal.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:40 pm to Gcockboi
You're upset that I ranked South Carolina so low, I'm guessing.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:40 pm to DaleDenton
Lol you really think? This LSU team is a different animal.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:41 pm to DaleDenton
At home, probably.
I'm reserving judgement on Arkansas until I've seen them play on the road. Neutral environment works, too. Let's see how they do in Maui.
I'm reserving judgement on Arkansas until I've seen them play on the road. Neutral environment works, too. Let's see how they do in Maui.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:42 pm to GatorsGators
When we win the old spice classic, it'll open some eyes.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:45 pm to BigEdLSU
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Lol you really think? This LSU team is a different animal.
From the games I've watched, yes.
LSU doesn't have much in terms of depth, there is still a drop off when they go deep into their bench.
This is a completely different Arkansas team, huge additions by subtraction from Powell going to China and BJ trying to hang on in the D-League...
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:45 pm to GatorsGators
LSU and Alabama way too high, Arkansas, Mizzou, USC, and Ole Miss are way too low.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:45 pm to GatorsGators
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4. Alabama
If this is true, the SEC just isn't very good.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:47 pm to GatorsGators
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I'm reserving judgement on Arkansas until I've seen them play on the road. Neutral environment works, too. Let's see how they do in Maui.
Monday, 1:00 pm central.
Arkansas needs to win at least 2 games against schools other than Chaminade.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:48 pm to GatorsGators
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11. Mississippi State: This is pretty much last season's Mississippi State team with a year of experience. Gavin Ware has the potential to be an All-SEC big. Craig Sword and Fred Thomas are athletic wings. Colin Borchert is a solid stretch four. Beyond those four, they don't have much.
THIS pretty much sums it up
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:49 pm to Gcockboi
quote:How are they too low? They've been very good at home under Anderson the past few seasons but have been an abomination on the road. Will it be any different this season?
Arkansas
quote:They're replacing their three best players. They're not too low.
Mizzou
quote:Your whole team is pretty much freshman and sophomores. Not too low.
USC
quote:Who should I rank them above? Vanderbilt, maybe. Who else?
Ole Miss
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:49 pm to DaleDenton
at us not having depth
we lack shooting depth off our bench but we have good players up and down the roster. I would like one more good outside shooter but if we use or press more with our bench it could get some good results.
we lack shooting depth off our bench but we have good players up and down the roster. I would like one more good outside shooter but if we use or press more with our bench it could get some good results.
Posted on 11/22/13 at 1:50 pm to GatorsGators
Thought it was a pretty good list, may be a little too early but we'll see how things progress as the year continues.
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