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Rodeonaut
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Should Division Records Be All That Matters


When determining who goes to the SECCG?

For instance, it would be pretty silly if UGA had only one loss, and that loss was to LSU. But didn't win the division race because whoever won the East only had to play Arkansas and Mississippi St as crossover games.







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TheSandman
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


No

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jbond
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


Yes. I think division record is all that should matter and in the event of a tie, the only data used to break a tie should be from divisional games.





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NYCAuburn
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


Offseason


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pivey14
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


Damn this is stupid





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pvilleguru
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I would be ok with that.





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Rodeonaut
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quote:

No

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Can you explain why?

How dumb would it be if two teams both went undefeated within the division, but one had to play a top 10 team, while the other played cupcakes as crossover games?

That makes no sense.






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Rodeonaut
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quote:

Yes. I think division record is all that should matter and in the event of a tie, the only data used to break a tie should be from divisional games.



I agree






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PrivatePublic
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


How could the other team win the East without beating said UGA team?

You may want to rethink this.






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Rodeonaut
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quote:

How could the other team win the East without beating said UGA team?

You may want to rethink this.


Ahh, you're right.

I wanted to make the simplest example.

Let's say 3 teams all had 2 losses. All were 5-1 in the division, but one of them played highly ranked teams, while the others played no one. That could happen, and it wouldn't be fair.






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TheSandman
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


Because that turns cross-divisional games into effective non-conference games.





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Cockopotamus
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Weak bait





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KSGamecock
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re: Should Division Records Be All That Matters


This happened to Carolina in 2011. We beat every team in the east but lost to Auburn and Arkansas so Georgia, whose only loss was to us, won the division. Spurrier made same comments about it not being right at the time.

Personally I don't care as long as they keep it consistent...don't change the rule now.






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Rodeonaut
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Weak bait


I'd guess most didn't know this was bait, or who it would be baiting. You're sharper than the average ranter.






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the808bass
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But next year, when a cross divisional opponent changes, a team might be better off. (Joking)

It's all cyclical. Going into this year, you'd have thought LSU had a horrible cross divisional schedule. It didn't actually turn out that way. Gotta just win. Take advantage of the opportunities and overcome the obstacles. No year is going to be "fair."






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weagle99
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Spurrier made same comments about it not being right at the time.


Spurrier = not making those comments now






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jbond
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I think we can all agree that the goal of the SEC Championship is to match up the best team from the East with the best team from the West. Toward that end, it is important to consider how those divisional champions are determined. Are we really doing the SECCG justice if we allow teams' cross-divisional schedules to affect who goes?





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Cockopotamus
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LSU was projected to have probably the toughest cross division schedule and did play a great UGA team.

And it would be a helluva lot more fair if they did away with permanent opponents and finally out of us on a fixed rotating schedule.

This pulling random teams out of a hat bull shite is ridiculous.






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the808bass
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And it would be a helluva lot more fair if they did away with permanent opponents and finally out of us on a fixed rotating schedule.

Or went to a 9 game conference schedule.

Eta: but yes, if the goal is to get the best teams in the SECCG, it seems permanent cross divisional rivals may end up going away. I doubt that will actually happen.



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CockRocket
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Are you conceding a loss to one of the West opponents you have to play?






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