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Posted on 11/18/13 at 11:30 am to lakedawg1626
Posted on 11/18/13 at 11:30 am to lakedawg1626
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It should be drilled into your DB's that the first thing you should do on 4th down is NOT intercept the ball, you lose yardge, risk fumble on return... It's simple risk vs. reward.
the problem was JHC and Matthews running into each other. If they were both trying to knock the ball down but smash into each other like they did the exact same outcome has just as much of a chance of happening. I'd like to think there would be better communication on that play but neither JHC or Matthews could assume the other guy is going to make a play. And if you have ever played sports you know that your instincts take over in situations like this. More of a flukey unlucky play than players not listening to their coach IMO. As mentioned before giving up this many yards/points is why we lost. not from a prayer hail mary from Auburn.
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Posted on 11/18/13 at 11:34 am to nickhole5
From my perspective, they both appear to be trying to catch the ball; therefore, I will have to disagree with your statement about both trying to knock down the ball. I think if either were trying to knock it down, the ball would have not been caught because they were in the correct position to do so.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 11:51 am to Robot Santa
We were in cover 2. 1 should have been deeper in order to move in on the play as opposed to playing a ball over his head.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 1:39 pm to Cobb Dawg
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From my perspective, they both appear to be trying to catch the ball; therefore, I will have to disagree with your statement about both trying to knock down the ball. I think if either were trying to knock it down, the ball would have not been caught because they were in the correct position to do so.
I didn't say they were trying to knock the ball down. I'm saying if they were trying to knock the ball down, like everyone on here wanted them to do, the same thing could have easily happened since they collided at the same time both were in position to make a play on the ball. So I think them trying to catch the ball isn't the real issue with the play.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 2:44 pm to PeeDeeDawgs
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but think about how Damn Good they will be... This D has some great athletes on it.
Yes they very well may be damn good in two years from now, but then the damn Offense will not be worth a crap, that is the problem with UGA under CMR. When the D is good we have no O, When the O is good we have no D
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:35 pm to Dawgs9
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but think about how Damn Good they will be... This D has some great athletes on it.
Yes they very well may be damn good in two years from now, but then the damn Offense will not be worth a crap, that is the problem with UGA under CMR. When the D is good we have no O, When the O is good we have no D
Went back and looked at the stats and you are pretty much right on. Last season was about the closest the offense and defense have been in terms of equal performance: Offense ranked 20 and the Defense ranked 29.
This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 11/18/13 at 3:51 pm to Cobb Dawg
If Grantham is with y'all next year, I wouldn't be shocked anymore, but I might be a little bit perplexed. If you always do what you've always done, you're always gonna get what you always got.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:03 pm to CockInYourEar
CTG will be back...he is an enigma tho..
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He's shown a good eye for talent,the kids seem to like him,if you have ever listened to him talk football,he seems to be a bright guy.....he's built the defense he wanted,he's collected the talent he needed...he just seems to be at a total loss on Gameday as to WHAT he wants to do with them.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:07 pm to CockInYourEar
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If you always do what you've always done, you're always gonna get what you always got.
The life and plight of the current Georgia Bulldog fan.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:10 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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If you always do what you've always done, you're always gonna get what you always got.
The life and plight of the current Georgia Bulldog fan.
Yep, pretty much the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:13 pm to davesdawgs
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Yep, pretty much the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
it's just maddening, Dave, and I am starting to think I will relent and just accept mediocrity before Georgia will do a damn thing about it
Posted on 11/18/13 at 4:25 pm to Damn Good Dawg
I remember 3 or 4 years ago SC was really hurting and talk was flying around about Spurrier getting the boot (I wish). I personally know people who stopped getting season tickets, after all it ain't cheap to travel every weekend for a game and it hurts even more to go see your team under perform week, in week out.
If enough people stop accepting mediocrity, regardless if Richt wants to keep the coaches that continue to disappoint, McGarity may have no choice but to step in.
In the end, it's all about $$ to keep an AD's job.
If enough people stop accepting mediocrity, regardless if Richt wants to keep the coaches that continue to disappoint, McGarity may have no choice but to step in.
In the end, it's all about $$ to keep an AD's job.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:16 pm to Charlestondawg
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I remember 3 or 4 years ago SC was really hurting and talk was flying around about Spurrier getting the boot (I wish). I personally know people who stopped getting season tickets, after all it ain't cheap to travel every weekend for a game and it hurts even more to go see your team under perform week, in week out.
If enough people stop accepting mediocrity, regardless if Richt wants to keep the coaches that continue to disappoint, McGarity may have no choice but to step in.
In the end, it's all about $$ to keep an AD's job.
I think that's the situation we are in. It's sort a damned if you do and damned if you don't. It's pretty clear the bottom line is what drives administrative decisions at UGA as it does all institutions but here's the difference I see at Georgia: fans, alumni/boosters in general are willing to accept less for their money than other more competitive schools like Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, etc. Each of those schools realizes if they are not contending for a national championship often, there will be financial consequences. Clearly our administration does not have the same level of concern about the consequences. Hell Auburn, fired Chizik just 2 seasons after he won a NC.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:22 pm to davesdawgs
quote:FIFY
Hell Auburn, fired Chizik just 2 seasons after Cam Newton won a NC.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 6:54 pm to Charlestondawg
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I remember 3 or 4 years ago SC was really hurting and talk was flying around about Spurrier getting the boot (I wish).
We weren't going to give him the boot, he thought about walking after the Iowa Outback Bowl loss. Thank the Lord he didn't, things got better.
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If enough people stop accepting mediocrity, regardless if Richt wants to keep the coaches that continue to disappoint, McGarity may have no choice but to step in.
That's basically what happened to USC in the 2000's, when we brought in Holtz and Spurrier, we paid more for a HC than we ever had before and started allocating many more resources towards football.
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In the end, it's all about $$ to keep an AD's job.
That's fair. At this level, CFB is a straight business. Even a coach with the perceived power of Bobby Bowden, with all that hardware he won, wasn't tenured from an AD who was watching decreased W's piss off the fans, which translated to decreased revenues.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 7:12 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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it's just maddening, Dave, and I am starting to think I will relent and just accept mediocrity before Georgia will do a damn thing about it
That's pretty much it. At least Grantham has been there now for almost 4 years, so you and the AD has some data to back up decisions/opinions.
2013 UGA Ranks
53 Total Defense
36 Rushing Defense
72 Passing Eff Defense
82 Scoring Defense
2012 UGA Ranks
32 Total Defense
77 Rushing Defense
37 Pass Eff Defense
18 Scoring Defense
2011 UGA Ranks
5 Total Defense
11 Rushing Defense
4 Pass Eff Defense
23 Scoring Defense
2010 UGA Ranks
23 Total Defense
56 Rushing Defense
48 Pass Eff Defense
36 Scoring Defense
So Grantham's Defense over the past 4 years has an Avg Rank of:
28 Total Defense
45 Rushing Defense
43 Passing Eff Defense
40 Scoring Defense
That's not terrible, it's above avg on all categories, but what might be more alarming for some is the trend. His best 2 defenses were in '10 and '11. There was a big drop off from '11's to '12's, but then '13's is even worse than '12's.
This post was edited on 11/18/13 at 7:13 pm
Posted on 11/18/13 at 7:21 pm to CockInYourEar
A big stat missing from that is our 3rd down defense. It's atrocious.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 8:55 pm to Damn Good Dawg
We have to keep at it until we finish the drill.
Posted on 11/18/13 at 9:48 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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A big stat missing from that is our 3rd down defense. It's atrocious.
There's a lot of factors. One is strength of schedule. The last 2 seasons we didn't play any tough West teams; no Alabama, no LSU and Auburn was down and out. Last season Missouri was weak. This season we started with #3 Clemson, then LSU, Missouri, a better Tennessee and a tougher than usual Vandy, SC and of course a reincarnated Auburn. Bundle in the loss of most of our defensive starters from last season and an offense sorely weakened by injuries and it largely explains the decline in defense this season which I expected. What I didn't expect was the mediocre run defense we had last season with so much NFL talent on the team.
Posted on 11/19/13 at 2:57 am to davesdawgs
Nice post but, it alludes to what I have been preaching into deaf ears all year.
If these kids are not properly strengthened & conditioned then what chance does a coach have in getting the quality results everybody is looking for?
You're asking him to make bricks with no straw with the 'Only lifetime appointed S&CC director in the business all that fool does is scream 'tenure' when someone questions his old tired metrics. Fish bone the problem and stop calling for the king to lop of the heads of his court.
Good day Sir!
If these kids are not properly strengthened & conditioned then what chance does a coach have in getting the quality results everybody is looking for?
You're asking him to make bricks with no straw with the 'Only lifetime appointed S&CC director in the business all that fool does is scream 'tenure' when someone questions his old tired metrics. Fish bone the problem and stop calling for the king to lop of the heads of his court.
Good day Sir!
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 6:50 am
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