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NFL.com writer polls 5 NFL Execs. Clowney's draft stock - up or down?
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:40 pm
Well I've seen a few on here say that Clowney has hurt his draft stock pretty severely because of his lack of production and effort this year in comparison to his first two years.
Saw this posted on our rivals site. And yes, this is a "Player X plays for my team so he can do no wrong in my book" type thread.
Here is the LINK though the entire article is posted.
Saw this posted on our rivals site. And yes, this is a "Player X plays for my team so he can do no wrong in my book" type thread.
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Jadeveon Clowney arrived at South Carolina as the No. 1 recruit in the country. Over the course of his first two seasons in Columbia, he lived up to that billing, notching 21 sacks and 35.5 tackles for loss. His freakish size, length and athleticism had many, myself included, labeling him as the top defensive prospect of the last decade. Unfortunately, his numbers have dramatically fallen off during his junior campaign. Through the first nine games, he's recorded just two sacks and 6.5 tackles for loss. How big of a concern is this statistical drop off? I reached out to five NFL executives and asked them if Clowney's lack of production in 2013 is a minor concern or a major issue. Here are their answers:
Executive No. 1
"Not a major concern. He's proven his ability to get to the quarterback. He's maybe not as clean of a prospect as he was before the season, but I still think he's going to be a stud in the NFL."
Executive No. 2
"It would be a big concern if he didn't have consistent stretches of production during his career. He's been very productive in the previous two seasons. I'm not that worried about him."
Executive No. 3
"Minor concern. He needs better health, conditioning and a fresh challenge. He should have all three next year. He'll be as good as he wants to be."
Executive No. 4
"Minor concern. His tape is good. Ignore the dip in production. He impacts the game in a drastic way. My only concern is his makeup. We'll get more answers in that area after we meet with him and do all of our background work."
Executive No. 5
"Only a minor concern, if any ... plus, he might double his sack total against Florida this week. He killed them last year."
Verdict: All five executives believe Clowney's poor 2013 production is a minor concern and not a major issue.
Conclusion: Clowney isn't having the type of season I anticipated, but his lack of production hasn't been a major issue with these five personnel executives. We've all seen what he's capable of doing when he's healthy and fully engaged. Also, there are still a few more games left for Clowney to showcase his skills and improve his numbers. Even if he fails to notch another sack this fall, he's shown enough during his college career to stay near the top of every draft board in the NFL
Here is the LINK though the entire article is posted.
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:42 pm to theGarnetWay
Who cares?
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:44 pm to theGarnetWay
Honestly i don't blame him for being conservative this year
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:44 pm to theGarnetWay
Clowney SUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKKKSSSS!!!!!
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:46 pm to KaiserSoze99
Solid post.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:47 pm to theGarnetWay
Just getting that out of the way so everybody can have a serious discussion.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:47 pm to theGarnetWay
If you look at it like he's only half-assing this year because he's saving himself for the NFL, then it's not a big deal. However, that may just be a nice excuse for someone who is kind of lazy and took plays off last year too. He benefited a lot from when Mark Ingram was there on the line with him that dude was beast. Anyway, if he is willing to work hard in the NFL he should be okay.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:48 pm to theGarnetWay
3 overall to the Falcons
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:49 pm to Othello
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He benefited a lot from when Mark Ingram was there
Wrong Ingram
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:50 pm to theGarnetWay
Somebody will gamble on him, but it wouldn't be me. Like they mention, conditioning and heart are issues IMO, not his physical abilities....late rounds oh yeah, but pass early IMO.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:54 pm to CamdenTiger
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Like they mention, conditioning and heart are issues IMO, not his physical abilities....late rounds oh yeah, but pass early IMO.
I'd like to think that even the worse run NFL franchises can make sure his conditioning issues are resolved but heart is either there or it isn't.
Quite frankly I think he likes playing football and all but he has been notably frustrated and has been vocal about it because he is being double teamed or triple teamed or cut down on every single play and having that happen all season I imagine would be a physical and an eventual mental toll.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:55 pm to theGarnetWay
Basically what I have been saying all year. He is still a special talent and only way I don't see him going #1 is if a team is dying for a franchise QB.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:58 pm to bamabenny
Maybe it was Mike Ingram but I'm pretty sure it his name was Mark also. He was #6 and he was beast as shite.
ETA: My bad Melvin Ingram
ETA: My bad Melvin Ingram
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:58 pm to Othello
Melvin Ingram
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 11/13/13 at 10:59 pm to CamdenTiger
quote:Well we can see why you would never cut it as an NFL Scout.
Somebody will gamble on him, but it wouldn't be me. Like they mention, conditioning and heart are issues IMO, not his physical abilities....late rounds oh yeah, but pass early IMO.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:01 pm to theGarnetWay
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Quite frankly I think he likes playing football and all but he has been notably frustrated and has been vocal about it because he is being double teamed or triple teamed or cut down on every single play and having that happen all season I imagine would be a physical and an eventual mental toll.
And you think he won't face this in the league
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:02 pm to theGarnetWay
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:02 pm to theGarnetWay
quote:This. In the NFL he'll be playing with more talent/experience across the line where he won't be double teamed as much. Of course, he will be going against much better O-Lineman but he'll be able to hold his own.
he is being double teamed or triple teamed or cut down on every single play and having that happen all season I imagine would be a physical and an eventual mental toll.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:04 pm to tween the hedges
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tween the hedges
As a Panther, I hope he stays far far away from the Falcons and Bucs.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 11:04 pm to Agforlife
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And you think he won't face this in the league
No. I think NFL teams will be counting on their OL to be able to block him 1 on 1. Imagine if the entire Gamecock defensive line was good enough to be in the NFL.. do you think offenses could really afford to put 2-3 guys on him every single play like they do? They couldn't. And NFL teams won't be able to afford to make that sacrifice either.
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I've hated you for 3 years but I only have one thing to say to you
All is usually forgiven when a player goes to the pro. For example, I don't hate Cam anymore.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 11:06 pm
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