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Top BCS Academic schools?

Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:01 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:01 pm
LINK /

Kind of an interesting read, not to mention an interesting way to come up with their rankings.
IF you want to ascribe to their rankings, it would kind of put a dent into some of the so-called academic teams, and how they play at a disadvantage. (Ga. Tech, UCLA, USCw, Duke, etc.)

More of an off-season thread, but I found it interesting and thought you might, too. These are based on 2012...
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:09 pm to
The better question here is who the frick is the New American Foundation and what is their agenda?
quote:

the New America Foundation bases its rankings on several factors: how a football team’s graduation rate compares to that of the school’s overall male student body, how a team’s black-white graduation gap compares to the male black-white graduation gap in the general student population, and the spread between a football team’s black graduation rate and the school’s overall graduation rate for black men. “Our formula is the only one out there that puts these statistics into context,” says Alex Holt, an education researcher at the New America Foundation.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

The better question here is who the frick is the New American Foundation and what is their agenda?


Got no earthly idea. When you come up with some info clue us in.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:13 pm to
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Posted by FreshPrinceofDubtown
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:16 pm to
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Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
7674 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Got no earthly idea. When you come up with some info clue us in.

LINK
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:30 pm to
Ummm...all your link did was show the stats they based it on....did I miss something?

I DID think it interesting the data they used to come up with their rankings.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:32 pm to
I find it interesting also.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:34 pm to
Here is another link to their site. It looks like they are some kind of policy group. I figured they might be political, which MIGHT be their main focus...but they obviously dabble in sports a bit, too.

LINK
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 4:47 pm to
The final paragraph gets me

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But no matter how you slice the numbers, as we go into bowl-game season, the study reminds us of the shortcomings of college sports. For 19 of the top 25 football teams — or 76% — their federal graduation rates are lower than those of the overall student population. On 22 of the top 25 college football teams — or 88% — more than 30% of the players fail to graduate. Using the more generous, and probably fair, measure — the GSR — 15 out of the top 25 college football teams (60%) fail to graduate more than 30% of their players.

That’s just not a winning game plan.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:22 pm to
Written like someone that knows nothing about college sports. It is 10 times harder for a college athlete to do as well or even graduate. With all of the extra work they have to do it's amazing that any graduate.
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

IF you want to ascribe to their rankings, it would kind of put a dent into some of the so-called academic teams, and how they play at a disadvantage. (Ga. Tech, UCLA, USCw, Duke, etc.)



It took the BCS top 25 frozen at a certain point of time before bowl games and then ranked them academically. If you weren't in the top 25 BCS rankings at the time you didn't get ranked.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 6:09 pm to
Good job, Swoop

I knew there was a puzzle to this fckn thing.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 11/8/13 at 8:01 pm to
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Written like someone that knows nothing about college sports. It is 10 times harder for a college athlete to do as well or even graduate. With all of the extra work they have to do it's amazing that any graduate.


WTF?

Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 1:06 am to
A lot of people outside of the west, don´t know that USC is a damned good school.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:17 am to
Boise State 3? What a joke...school makes its living on kids that can't get in other places.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:41 am to
quote:

It took the BCS top 25 frozen at a certain point of time before bowl games and then ranked them academically. If you weren't in the top 25 BCS rankings at the time you didn't get ranked.




That is what it indicates...but I don't ever remember Utah State or San Jose State being ranked in the top 25. or Kent State, for that matter. Something isn't quite right. It looks like they are talking about the top 25 ranked football teams....but it means the top 25 ranked football teams academically.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58901 posts
Posted on 11/9/13 at 8:44 am to
Ever play college sports? Class time and then you put in 2-3 hours of practice time and football classroom/film sessions. College athletes really don't have a WHOLE lot of extra time to do a lot of studying. Then....a lot of them want to still get in time to socialize. (Read: get into trouble doing stuff they shouldn't be doing) It is a lot harder for a college athlete to graduate than a regular student because of all the time restraints.

You don't have to agree...but it IS true.
This post was edited on 11/9/13 at 8:50 am
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