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Coach on the Hot Seat — Frank Haith (Missouri)
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:29 pm
"Other than "Do you and Evan Turner really not like each other?" the one question people most often ask me is "Why do you hate Frank Haith so much?" I never get the chance to fully explain the story because I usually get asked on Twitter and have only 140 characters. Let's address it now. First, however, let me make it clear that I have nothing personal against Haith, and "hate" is way too strong of a word. He's probably a decent enough guy and I'm sure in another life he and I would get together on the weekends to watch football and eat pizza rolls or something.
Anyway, here's what happened: At some point during Haith's first season at Missouri, when the Tigers finished 30-5 and Haith was named national coach of the year, I realized that every time he was shown onscreen he looked like he was having an internal debate over what Nickelodeon slime tasted like. I wasn't criticizing his coaching at that point. I was just noting that he always looked like he was staring off into space. But then I started paying more and more attention to Missouri's games and realized far too many of Haith's players were undisciplined in big spots, especially when they blew a 19-point second-half lead at Kansas. I figured this had to do with Haith's coaching, but I still wasn't completely sold that it was his fault. Then Missouri lost to Norfolk State in the first round of the NCAA tournament and everything became clear.
Most of the national media applauded Haith for a 30-win season and blamed the Norfolk State loss on Mizzou's players, bad luck, and Norfolk State preparing well for the game (while also noting that Coach K and Duke also lost to a 15-seed, so it couldn't be the coach's fault). The consensus was that Haith would build off the success and continue to do well in Columbia. I took a different lesson from this game: Frank Haith just isn't a good coach. Every time I mentioned that Missouri made a hiring mistake,4 Mizzou fans defended Haith and wondered why I was criticizing the national coach of the year. Then I was vindicated when Missouri capped off an underwhelming 2012-13 season with a 12-point loss to Colorado State in the first round of the NCAA tournament. Following that loss, I admittedly spiked the ball and said "I told you so" so many times that if you type "Frank Haith Mark Titu" into Google's search bar, "Frank Haith Mark Titus" comes up as a suggestion.
For what it's worth, I'd love to be wrong and see Haith prove that he's been a good coach all along and that he's just had a run of bad luck. Lord knows Missouri fans have been through enough over the years, and the last thing they need to add to their never-ending torture is an incompetent coach. Unfortunately, considering that Haith's successor at Miami, Jim Larranaga, won more NCAA tournament games last season than Haith has won in his career, I'm not getting my hopes up."
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Anyway, here's what happened: At some point during Haith's first season at Missouri, when the Tigers finished 30-5 and Haith was named national coach of the year, I realized that every time he was shown onscreen he looked like he was having an internal debate over what Nickelodeon slime tasted like. I wasn't criticizing his coaching at that point. I was just noting that he always looked like he was staring off into space. But then I started paying more and more attention to Missouri's games and realized far too many of Haith's players were undisciplined in big spots, especially when they blew a 19-point second-half lead at Kansas. I figured this had to do with Haith's coaching, but I still wasn't completely sold that it was his fault. Then Missouri lost to Norfolk State in the first round of the NCAA tournament and everything became clear.
Most of the national media applauded Haith for a 30-win season and blamed the Norfolk State loss on Mizzou's players, bad luck, and Norfolk State preparing well for the game (while also noting that Coach K and Duke also lost to a 15-seed, so it couldn't be the coach's fault). The consensus was that Haith would build off the success and continue to do well in Columbia. I took a different lesson from this game: Frank Haith just isn't a good coach. Every time I mentioned that Missouri made a hiring mistake,4 Mizzou fans defended Haith and wondered why I was criticizing the national coach of the year. Then I was vindicated when Missouri capped off an underwhelming 2012-13 season with a 12-point loss to Colorado State in the first round of the NCAA tournament. Following that loss, I admittedly spiked the ball and said "I told you so" so many times that if you type "Frank Haith Mark Titu" into Google's search bar, "Frank Haith Mark Titus" comes up as a suggestion.
For what it's worth, I'd love to be wrong and see Haith prove that he's been a good coach all along and that he's just had a run of bad luck. Lord knows Missouri fans have been through enough over the years, and the last thing they need to add to their never-ending torture is an incompetent coach. Unfortunately, considering that Haith's successor at Miami, Jim Larranaga, won more NCAA tournament games last season than Haith has won in his career, I'm not getting my hopes up."
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Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:41 pm to DaleDenton
Lol. Haith isn't on the hot seat. He could finish .500 and outside the tournament and still keep his job.
Do you think Arkansas finishes ahead of Mizzou in the SEC standings? I don't.
Do you think Arkansas finishes ahead of Mizzou in the SEC standings? I don't.
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:44 pm to DaleDenton
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Coach on the Hot Seat — Frank Haith
would not be surprised to see haith gone from mizzou in a year or two
and mizzou fans would bee yearning for the days of yore when they had mike anderson as their coach
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:47 pm to DaleDenton
other notes from the grantland article:
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Top Three Teams
1. Kentucky
2. Florida
3. Tennessee
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Best College Player — Alex Poythress (Kentucky)
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Best Pro Prospect — Julius Randle (Kentucky)
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Most Underrated Player — Jarnell Stokes (Tennessee)
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Best Senior With a Slim Chance at an NBA Career — Patric Young (Florida)
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Player Who Best Fits the Label "Loose Cannon" — Marshall Henderson (Ole Miss)
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Most Intriguing New Coach Player — Dorian Finney-Smith (Florida)
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Coach on the Hot Seat — Frank Haith (Missouri)
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Most Compelling Story Line — Freshmen
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:51 pm to DaleDenton
Wasn't much of a conference preview. Lots of info on UK and UF though.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:53 pm to oauron
Wouldn' t auburn's coach be on the hot seat? He's had a reasonable amount of time to put a decent product on the court
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:57 pm to hawgfaninc
IF he makes the tourney....and that's a huge IF based their exhibition play, and goes 1 and done again, he will most definitely be on the hot seat
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:57 pm to tigerbait2010
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Wouldn' t auburn's coach be on the hot seat?
Pretty sure the coaches for UGA and Bama are also on the hot seat...
Posted on 11/8/13 at 1:58 pm to DaleDenton
No other coach has managed to bring in the caliber of players Mizzou has been landing with Frank Haith as coach going down the list of top recruits. We still don't know a whole lot about Haith yet because he hasn't had his own group of players to work with, this will buy Haith time he needs to get his players.
Jonathan Williams # 42 overall player 2013 class
Jabarai Brown # 19 overall player (transfer from Oregon)
Zach Price # 67 overall player (transfer from Louisville)
Deuce Bellow # 54 overall player (transfer from Baylor)
Jakeem Gant # 47 overall player 2014 class
Namon Wright # 87 overall player 2014 class
Wes Clark # 72 overall player class of 2013
Jordan Clarkson- Transfer from Houston
Jonathan Williams # 42 overall player 2013 class
Jabarai Brown # 19 overall player (transfer from Oregon)
Zach Price # 67 overall player (transfer from Louisville)
Deuce Bellow # 54 overall player (transfer from Baylor)
Jakeem Gant # 47 overall player 2014 class
Namon Wright # 87 overall player 2014 class
Wes Clark # 72 overall player class of 2013
Jordan Clarkson- Transfer from Houston
This post was edited on 11/8/13 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:05 pm to MizzouSEC2012
Clarkson transferred from University of Tulsa.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:16 pm to the808bass
Did not read. Short answer is no, no hot seat.
Haith was left a mess by MA. He managed, through transfers to not only balance out our classes, but still make the tourney both years while doing so. How many other schools continue to make the tourney during rebuilding years? A handful, but it's a small handful. He definitely has a hurdle to get over, namely winning in the tourney, but he's been recruiting better than anyone at Mizzou in a long time.
Compare what Haith has accomplished in exactly the same length of time as MA. That should give you some idea of which coach is closer to the hot seat, and I don't even think MA is close to the hot seat yet. He gets another year at least.
Haith was left a mess by MA. He managed, through transfers to not only balance out our classes, but still make the tourney both years while doing so. How many other schools continue to make the tourney during rebuilding years? A handful, but it's a small handful. He definitely has a hurdle to get over, namely winning in the tourney, but he's been recruiting better than anyone at Mizzou in a long time.
Compare what Haith has accomplished in exactly the same length of time as MA. That should give you some idea of which coach is closer to the hot seat, and I don't even think MA is close to the hot seat yet. He gets another year at least.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:31 pm to DaleDenton
Hogs, please stop. We are not your rivals.
You will have to look elsewhere.
You will have to look elsewhere.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:40 pm to DaleDenton
Too long and by dale denton.
Didnt read
Didnt read
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:47 pm to DaleDenton
DaleDenton sucks and I wish he would get banned again. Nice sail though, but rivalry application denied
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:48 pm to hawgfaninc
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Player Who Best Fits the Label "Loose Cannon" — Marshall Henderson (Ole Miss)
They clearly wanted to list Marshall Henderson
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:52 pm to the808bass
quote:Easily. We'll be top 25 by the end of the season.
Do you think Arkansas finishes ahead of Mizzou in the SEC standings?
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:54 pm to Drewbie
LOL, still drinking the LMA koolaide I see.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:55 pm to DaleDenton
Mizzou is still playing football....did not read.
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:55 pm to Drewbie
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Easily. We'll be top 25 by the end of the season.
Did you get all the away games eliminated from your schedule?
Posted on 11/8/13 at 2:56 pm to DaleDenton
Not on hot seat yet, but he's not a very good x's and o's coach.
When Ernie Nestor left, so did the x's and o's, and it showed. They were a fricking train wreck at the end of games. There was no focus, no one to get them on the same page.
Cut to When Ernie was there, you would see him in Franks ear all during the game, and when they went to TimeOut, Ernie was the one with clip board and talking.
If you cannot coach the x's and o's, it doesn't matter who you recruit.
When Ernie Nestor left, so did the x's and o's, and it showed. They were a fricking train wreck at the end of games. There was no focus, no one to get them on the same page.
Cut to When Ernie was there, you would see him in Franks ear all during the game, and when they went to TimeOut, Ernie was the one with clip board and talking.
If you cannot coach the x's and o's, it doesn't matter who you recruit.
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