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Scientists discover new knee ligament!

Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:52 am
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
1861 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:52 am
quote:

Two knee surgeons at University Hospitals Leuven have discovered a previously unknown ligament in the human knee. This ligament appears to play an important role in patients with anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tears.


LINK

This could change how we view ACL tears in the future.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:55 am to
And yet you haven't discovered the Off-Topic Board
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4175 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:56 am to
Pretty interesting. I always felt there had to be a reason why some guys always got the "injury prone" tag in football, particularly with knees.
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
1861 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:58 am to
Figured this is important enough to share on any sports board, but oh well. frick me, right?
Posted by Notherdamnhog
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2010
5930 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:58 am to
So that explains Swain's injury.....the old unknown ligament trick.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36485 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:59 am to
Hrm.............I bet I tore that too.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:01 am to
quote:

So that explains Swain's injury.....the old unknown ligament trick.


I was baffled when i didn't open this thread and see the gif of swain's injury.

Glad it didn't take too long...would have started to worry about you guys.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:03 am to
scientists have been studying human anatomy for hundreds of years and they haven't found this yet? strikes me as odd
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:06 am to
quote:

So that explains Swain's injury....


Ah, Malzahn with the troll that keeps on giving.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139673 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:09 am to
Apparently, as in the case of Swain, when you injure the newly found knee ligament, it heals very quickly. A little stationary bike ride is all you need.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79026 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:11 am to
Revenge of Jimmy the Greek
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12846 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:18 am to
Great. Now tell me how to work it out more. Gotta get my new knee ligament ripped as hell too!!!
Posted by LSUray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2003
1403 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:25 am to
quote:

scientists have been studying human anatomy for hundreds of years and they haven't found this yet? strikes me as odd


This! I didn't read the article but I don't buy it. How many millions of human cadavers have been thoroughly examined and how many millions of knee surgeries have occurred without one single person finding this mystery ligament until now. Just doesn't add up. I'm guessing it may be a genetic anomoly that is only present in small percentage of the population.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:28 am to
quote:

This! I didn't read the article but I don't buy it. How many millions of human cadavers have been thoroughly examined and how many millions of knee surgeries have occurred without one single person finding this mystery ligament until now. Just doesn't add up. I'm guessing it may be a genetic anomoly that is only present in small percentage of the population.
They claim it's present in 97% of humans.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
9620 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Apparently, as in the case of Swain, when you injure the newly found knee ligament, it heals very quickly. A little stationary bike ride is all you need.



And a walking boot.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42604 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

This! I didn't read the article but I don't buy it. How many millions of human cadavers have been thoroughly examined and how many millions of knee surgeries have occurred without one single person finding this mystery ligament until now. Just doesn't add up. I'm guessing it may be a genetic anomoly that is only present in small percentage of the population.


It had been proposed over 100 years ago by a French doctor but for some reason it was never verified as an actual ligament. Science books are great and all but when you actually start dissecting things nothing looks like its supposed to -- this ligament was written off as various things when it was noticed at all. Scientists also haven't actually had that much access to a lot of human cadavers to do comparative studies until fairly recently because there have been social and religious prohibitions and taboos about it and even now it can be difficult to get enough cadavers to do a comparative study.

You'd think it was easier but it's not -- there's still a strong enough taboo/ick factor that keeps people from donating their body. Cadavers are shared and reused when possible because there's still scarcity.
Posted by Fizzou
Member since Oct 2013
598 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

It had been proposed over 100 years ago by a French doctor but for some reason it was never verified as an actual ligament. Science books are great and all but when you actually start dissecting things nothing looks like its supposed to -- this ligament was written off as various things when it was noticed at all. Scientists also haven't actually had that much access to a lot of human cadavers to do comparative studies until fairly recently because there have been social and religious prohibitions and taboos about it and even now it can be difficult to get enough cadavers to do a comparative study.

You'd think it was easier but it's not -- there's still a strong enough taboo/ick factor that keeps people from donating their body. Cadavers are shared and reused when possible because there's still scarcity.

+1 for the guy who actually knows what he's talking about.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Member since Aug 2012
11080 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 7:20 pm to
quote:


+1 for the guy who actually knows what he's talking about.

+1 from me too. I studied history of medicine in college. Prof was a microhistorical dweeb but I learned a ton.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 11/6/13 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

They claim it's present in 97% of humans.


I don't believe this. How could we not know about it? There have been millions of knees operated on.

edit. saw the above: I realize it appears much different in the OR but this story seems odd
This post was edited on 11/6/13 at 10:29 pm
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