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Mizzou Fans Wanted To Fire Pinkel Last Year.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:45 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:45 pm
Now they think Pinkel's one of the best coaches in college football.
Maybe Mizzou does belong in the SEC.
Maybe Mizzou does belong in the SEC.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:45 pm to Legend13
We settled with replacing our OC.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:45 pm to Legend13
I still think Pinkel is going to be retiring soon. Next couple of years possibly.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:46 pm to Legend13
I never hopped off the Drinkel Express, FWIW.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:47 pm to Legend13
Goes to show how bad Yost was
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:48 pm to The_Joker
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Goes to show how bad Yoast was
Dont agree. Having the team healthy was the most important thing by far over the OC.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:49 pm to The_Joker
I was definitely teetering after last year.
Now give the man a five year extension to help him with recruiting.
Now give the man a five year extension to help him with recruiting.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:51 pm to Legend13
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Maybe Mizzou does belong in the SEC.
Very well-played
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:51 pm to kilo
Health matters kilo, but the playcalling and scheme are light years better in my opinion this year. Tightening the splits on the OL, using the TE to block, using the middle of the field rather than just the sides in our passing game, not running jet sweeps that take 10 seconds to develop with a running back running 30 yards horizontally, running north-south, not always calling a five wide passing play on 3rd and 2...the playcalling is much, much better with Henson at the helm and it matters a whole lot to our success. I don't think our offense would be as effective if it were the same Yost playbook, playcalling and formations as last year. Not at all.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:54 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
I think the change helped but Henson's scheme wouldnt work with the OL we trotted out there last year as well as Berkstresser or a hurt Franklin at the helm.
Im not saying that Henson isnt better than Yost, just saying that health and line play are the bigger reasons for this teams better play.
Im not saying that Henson isnt better than Yost, just saying that health and line play are the bigger reasons for this teams better play.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 9:56 pm to Legend13
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Mizzou Fans Wanted To Fire Pinkel Last Month
FIFY
Posted on 10/20/13 at 10:04 pm to kilo
I agree its definitely multifactorial, with the OL and Berk from last year very little would work. Although, just to play devils advocate, you could argue that if your OL is a MASH unit its probably a better idea than ever to tighten the splits and bring in a TE for extra blocking since that's what is badly needed...and to run simpler, easier to execute pass routes rather than the precision timing spread stuff.
I guess the more telling thing would be to look at where this Mizzou offense ranks production wise compared to the healthy Gabbert teams under Yost and Franklin's 2011 team. I don't have the numbers, but it sure seems like this year's O has been a bit more prolific than even those teams in terms of scoring and yardage and what not...but again I don't have the stats to back that up.
Yost had some very, very good offenses at Mizzou during his run, there's no question about that. I think a lot of it is more that the true original, Mike Leech type spread was kinda figured out by a lot of defenses as time went on.
What we are running now is more in keeping with what a lot of the up tempo teams are doing, more balanced and more focus on a beefier, traditional use of the OL while still using lots of WRs and spreading the field a good amount. The best spread attacks have evolved and I feel like the current system we run this year is more reflective of that evolution than last year.
Also I just feel like Henson has a better sense for taking what the defense is giving you rather than saying "we are gonna go five wide on this 3rd and 2 because that's what the pregame script says dammit!" regardless of what the defense is showing. It felt like Yost was more prone to that. Christiansen before him was, I felt, GREAT at taking what the defense was giving you. Think of Texas Tech and Arky in 2007 where we just ran the ball all day long b/c that's what was available with the defense dropping 8 into coverage. Yost seemed more stubborn and married to passing it at a high rate no matter what. Anyway you get the gist. No question being healthier is a major, major factor this year though.
I guess the more telling thing would be to look at where this Mizzou offense ranks production wise compared to the healthy Gabbert teams under Yost and Franklin's 2011 team. I don't have the numbers, but it sure seems like this year's O has been a bit more prolific than even those teams in terms of scoring and yardage and what not...but again I don't have the stats to back that up.
Yost had some very, very good offenses at Mizzou during his run, there's no question about that. I think a lot of it is more that the true original, Mike Leech type spread was kinda figured out by a lot of defenses as time went on.
What we are running now is more in keeping with what a lot of the up tempo teams are doing, more balanced and more focus on a beefier, traditional use of the OL while still using lots of WRs and spreading the field a good amount. The best spread attacks have evolved and I feel like the current system we run this year is more reflective of that evolution than last year.
Also I just feel like Henson has a better sense for taking what the defense is giving you rather than saying "we are gonna go five wide on this 3rd and 2 because that's what the pregame script says dammit!" regardless of what the defense is showing. It felt like Yost was more prone to that. Christiansen before him was, I felt, GREAT at taking what the defense was giving you. Think of Texas Tech and Arky in 2007 where we just ran the ball all day long b/c that's what was available with the defense dropping 8 into coverage. Yost seemed more stubborn and married to passing it at a high rate no matter what. Anyway you get the gist. No question being healthier is a major, major factor this year though.
This post was edited on 10/20/13 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 10/20/13 at 10:10 pm to BreakawayZou83
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I never hopped off the Drinkel Express, FWIW
Posted on 10/20/13 at 10:12 pm to Mizzou Fan in Da ATX
I completely agree with your opinion on the evolved spread Henson has implemented this year. It seemed like Yost approached the offense with the mindset that the SEC will have to adjust to our offense while Henson has, like you said about his play calling, molded the offense to be more prepared to compete in the SEC.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 10:13 pm to kilo
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I still think Pinkel is going to be retiring soon. Next couple of years possibly.
He doesn't look all that old. Is his health an issue?
Posted on 10/20/13 at 10:24 pm to Legend13
I will admit I was one. There has always been a fringe segment that has always called for his head. I'd always supported him up until last year. It just seemed to me he was distracted and tended to live off of past numbers instead of the next game. I don't think we've heard him twist any numbers this year so far about how Mizzou has the most wins when playing on artificial turf in games that start after 3:00 and the temperature is below 46.
Posted on 10/20/13 at 10:25 pm to Legend13
Pinkel has always been a good coach. But mainly when he's not getting DWI's.
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