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Is America better off since the Tea Party formed?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:18 am
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:18 am
I say no.
I blame the Tea Party crazies exponentially more than I blame Obama and any socially liberal people out there for the state of the US government right now.
I blame the Tea Party crazies exponentially more than I blame Obama and any socially liberal people out there for the state of the US government right now.
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Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:22 am to sorantable
Left wing crazies and Right wing crazies are both equally bad.
JMO though left wing crazies are worse than the right. Given that you are from the delta I would more than likely say you are democrat so I won't go into this anymore with you.
JMO though left wing crazies are worse than the right. Given that you are from the delta I would more than likely say you are democrat so I won't go into this anymore with you.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:25 am to sorantable
Are we better off? No. But is it the tea party's fault? No.
They are doing what they were elected to do - be a voice for their constituents. That os the way the Founding Fathers wanted it. House was the voice of the people, Senate was the voice of the state (we killed that with direct election of senators).
One of my liberal friends was posting on Facebook yesterday that it was no surprise that 75% of tea party reps said they would vote against something good for the country if their constituents were against it. That is how it should be; that is their job.
The reason that we are not better off is because the other side, be it the politicians or the people who elect them, have ideas that are polar opposite of the "tea party" types, and yet they are not willing to compromise on anything, they want it either their way of the highway.
They are doing what they were elected to do - be a voice for their constituents. That os the way the Founding Fathers wanted it. House was the voice of the people, Senate was the voice of the state (we killed that with direct election of senators).
One of my liberal friends was posting on Facebook yesterday that it was no surprise that 75% of tea party reps said they would vote against something good for the country if their constituents were against it. That is how it should be; that is their job.
The reason that we are not better off is because the other side, be it the politicians or the people who elect them, have ideas that are polar opposite of the "tea party" types, and yet they are not willing to compromise on anything, they want it either their way of the highway.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:25 am to sorantable
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I blame the Tea Party
for?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:29 am to PJinAtl
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Are we better off? No. But is it the tea party's fault? No.
They are doing what they were elected to do - be a voice for their constituents
I agree they are doing what they were elected to do, but even then the Tea Party reps in the House are a minority, and breaking it down further the the districts they represent are a very small minority of this country. The tactics they have used to advance what their constituents may want has not been beneficial to this country, but I blame a lot of that on a spineless Speaker and spineless moderate Republicans in the House and Senate.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:30 am to sorantable
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I say no.
I blame the Tea Party crazies exponentially more than I blame Obama and any socially liberal people out there for the state of the US government right now.
here's the deal w/ the Tea Pary IMHO. There are a lot of great ideas out there that they have. Constitutional ideas. Common sense ideas. The problem is that their spokesman, outside of Cruz and Lee are idots.
I don't consider myself a tea partier, but my politics probably line up along theirs, I just don't feel the need to proclaim it with such a negative message and carry my gun with me at rallies.
The ideas are correct, but the rhetoric is terrible.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:31 am to sorantable
Sorant,
I bet you also signed the MoveOn.org petition to criminally arrest Republican leaders for sedition regarding their actions during the government shutdown.
Hell, you probably signed the petition multiple times under different aliases. That's what you whackos consider legit.
I bet you also signed the MoveOn.org petition to criminally arrest Republican leaders for sedition regarding their actions during the government shutdown.
Hell, you probably signed the petition multiple times under different aliases. That's what you whackos consider legit.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:32 am to Alahunter
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I blame the Tea Party
for?
diluting the votes needed for the republicans
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:32 am to McRebel42
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Given that you are from the delta I would more than likely say you are democrat so I won't go into this anymore with you.
really? I'm politically moderate.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:33 am to McRebel42
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Left wing crazies and Right wing crazies are both equally bad.
JMO though left wing crazies are worse than the right.
doesn't that seem mildly contradictory?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:34 am to 3nOut
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The problem is that their spokesman, outside of Cruz and Lee are idots.
Yeah...when people think of Michelle Bachmann as the face of your ideology, you are pretty much fricked.
I really don't think a refusal to quietly continue kicking the can down the road is all that crazy though.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:34 am to sorantable
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I say no.
Things look better here in 2013 than they did in 2009. So certainly things have gotten better since Rick Santelli's rant over taxes and bailouts. The world economy was a shitshow then where things are slowly getting better now.
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I blame the Tea Party crazies exponentially more than I blame Obama
I blame them for putting belief over being pragmatic. The Dems control the Senate and WH. You're not going to get what you want stomping your feet and demanding unrealistic goals. Obamacare isn't going away until there is a R in the WH. They need to learn to pick their battles.
Principles aren't worth shite in politics if you can't get anything you want.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:34 am to sorantable
I'll say this.
The country is worse off, because long standing failed policies of Democrats are catching up. Generations of families live a welfare lifestyle, a large portion of the populace expect the Gov't to provide for them and the policies of the left has allowed a massive amount of Americans to go and remain uneducated.
When such a large portion of America is poor, uneducated and catered to and promised things by the left, you have the debt where it is, crime where it is, unemployment where it is. Think about what just happened, again. We borrowed more money, to pay for things we can't afford, and in the process, increased spending another 3 billion dollars. Would you max out all your cards, go get a high interest loan to pay on them, get a new credit card and buy more stuff, without cutting nonessential items out of your life?
The country is worse off, because long standing failed policies of Democrats are catching up. Generations of families live a welfare lifestyle, a large portion of the populace expect the Gov't to provide for them and the policies of the left has allowed a massive amount of Americans to go and remain uneducated.
When such a large portion of America is poor, uneducated and catered to and promised things by the left, you have the debt where it is, crime where it is, unemployment where it is. Think about what just happened, again. We borrowed more money, to pay for things we can't afford, and in the process, increased spending another 3 billion dollars. Would you max out all your cards, go get a high interest loan to pay on them, get a new credit card and buy more stuff, without cutting nonessential items out of your life?
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:35 am to sorantable
No.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:36 am to Robot Santa
I say kick em all outta office and start over witb term limits and outlaw lobbist and special intrest groups
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:37 am to sorantable
The Tea Party is fricking pathetic
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:38 am to Alahunter
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Would you max out all your cards, go get a high interest loan to pay on them
That under 4% interest 30 years out is a real killer.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:38 am to Duke
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You're not going to get what you want stomping your feet and demanding unrealistic goals.
Politics as we know it.
I just hope that the Republican Party and the Tea Party have separate candidates in our next presidential election.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:38 am to Agforlife
Term limits for ALL politicians would be glorious.
Posted on 10/18/13 at 9:38 am to sorantable
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I just hope that the Republican Party and the Tea Party have separate candidates in our next presidential election.
I hope they enjoy another Democrat in the WH.
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