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The best solution to player-pay controversy?

Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:32 am
Posted by TheLoupGarou
Benton, LA
Member since Oct 2010
1180 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:32 am
Finally, some sanity in the "play-the-college-player" controversy. This has been my stance all along. Let the those who want to be student-athletes be recruited into college, let the non-academically-inclined and those that need some money NOW, go the "minor league" route. It works very well for baseball. It didn't lessen my enjoyment of LSU baseball one iota because Zach Lee took the big money and went off with the Dodgers.

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Delany: “Maybe in football and basketball, it would work better if more kids had a chance to go directly into the professional ranks,” Delany said, via ESPN.com. “If they’re not comfortable and want to monetize, let the minor leagues flourish. Train at IMG, get agents to invest in your body, get agents to invest in your likeness, and establish it on your own. But don’t come here and say, ‘We want to be paid $25,000 or $50,000.’ Go to the D-League and get it, go to the NBA and get it, go to the NFL and get it. Don’t ask us what we’ve been doing.

What are your thoughts?
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:33 am to
How about the schools don't pay the players, but the players can go do what they want (sign with agents, do endorsements, etc.)

What they do outside of school is their business.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24816 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:36 am to
Agreed. Want to be a professional athlete and believe there is an employer that will pay you more than the value of what you would receive playing amateur ball in school? Then go be a professional athlete.

Want to be a amateur student athlete governed by amateurism rules? Then go do that.

Your choice.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:42 am to
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How about the schools don't pay the players, but the players can go do what they want (sign with agents, do endorsements, etc.)

What they do outside of school is their business.

Pretty much this. If regular students can work jobs and get paid for their services outside of school, why can't athletes? Let the sign shoe deals, get paid for autographs, etc.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9111 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:44 am to
Smart move by Delany and the Big Ten as they know such a rule would severely dillute the talent away from the SEC and college football in general.

As for college baseball, YOU and other LSU fans may enjoy it but the rest of country doesn't pay nearly as much attention to it imho because so many great players bypass college baseball. Be careful what you wish for.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:44 am to
Greedy arse 18 year old kids. can't they wait just 3 friggin years? everybody in college is broke. hell most people in their 20's are still broke, that's fact of life.

They're not physically ready for NFL anyways and they're being developed over 3 years under top coaches in America. They're pretty well taken care of. 95% of college football players won't see a NFL contract and they're getting a valuable college education for free.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:46 am to
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As for college baseball, YOU and other LSU fans may enjoy it but the rest of country doesn't pay nearly as much attention to it imho because so many great players bypass college baseball. Be careful what you wish for.

Right, but what is more unjust: the talent pool for your favorite college football team being diluted or incredibly talented people never being able to make a dime from their talent due to an injury sustained while going through the amateur sports song and dance?
Posted by jprice4608
Member since Dec 2011
944 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:47 am to
1. Anything that they are given from their school/NCAA/Bowl game, they should be allowed to sell. (We live in America) 2. Any money made off them (jerseys, etc.), they should be given a percentage. Put this money in an account that they cant touch until they graduate(This keeps their amateur status and everyone is happy.)
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:48 am to
Terrible idea. College game days are one of sports' most popular products in large part due to the fact that there is simply no competition on Saturdays. Now throw in minor leagues that are inevitably going to want a share in TV markets? Buh bye college football as we know it.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:49 am to
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let the minor leagues flourish.


Is the NFL interested in this. This whole system would take a major kick in the arse to get started in the NFL.

Although if it does well.....welcome to CUSA football SEC.
Posted by Politiceaux
Member since Feb 2009
17654 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:50 am to
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Greedy arse college football fans. can't they just let me beat my chest for 3 friggin years while they play for my favorite amateur team while risking career ending injury?

quote:

95% of college football players won't see a NFL contract and they're getting a valuable college education for free.

It's unlikely that those without serious NFL potential would get a contract and would still play college ball, FWIW.
Posted by HandGrenade
Member since Oct 2010
11225 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:50 am to
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:53 am to
so who do you think gets the most signing deals? The guy signing at Alabama or LSU or the guy signing at Bryant University in Rhode Island?
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:54 am to
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It's unlikely that those without serious NFL potential would get a contract and would still play college ball


I wonder how "elite" the NFL scouting would be at the high school level.....obviously every "5" star player has NFL potential. So you can take your top 2 players (if you are a big time player like LSU, Bama, UGA, etc) from every class and at least know you will have to fight the NFL (can colleges even fight this fight?) hard for them.

Now you go to "4" stars.....I'd say most of these guys have NFL potential. For the last decade that would mean LSU would be fighting to keep half of their class not from just Alabama and Ole Miss but also from the NFL.

I'm just not sure that is the answer.....I'm leaning more towards let the players work and do whatever they can (sign autographs and merchandise) to earn money.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20282 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:55 am to
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What are your thoughts?

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Last I heard only about 20 FBS schools were in the black on athletics. Yes, bigger schools can afford to pay.

What about the rest of the schools? What about schools like Tulane, North Dakota, Wyoming,etc...

This isn't just about football players being paid. It is all athletes including women's soccer, volleyball, golf, baseball, etc.. etc... How would smaller schools possibly afford this? Are they going to go to the state legislature and get $250K to $500K made available to pay all athletes the same amount? IF not, there is going to be a "title 9" like lawsuit that hell won't have.

If smaller schools can't do it, then do the big boys break off and form their own league? How exciting would a league of 40 to 50 super schools be?

Paying major college football players is not a problem. It is all the other shite that comes with it in other sports and other schools that don't have big time TV contracts.
Posted by CrimsonCoast
The Coast
Member since Jun 2012
1409 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:56 am to
Keep the amateurism rules. If they want to get payed, let them play in their own league.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29276 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 8:58 am to
quote:

How exciting would a league of 40 to 50 super schools be?


There is a super league of 32 teams that plays on Sunday that is usually pretty exciting....at least if you look at the ratings.

Posted by BoCam2
Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
3867 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:00 am to
quote:

How about the schools don't pay the players, but the players can go do what they want (sign with agents, do endorsements, etc.)

What they do outside of school is their business.


I bet we would see alot more professional agents that just happen to be alumni of SEC schools...
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21655 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:01 am to
Terrible idea. Who wants to watch a bunch of "high football I.Q., high motor" guys compete against each other all the time?
Posted by McRebel42
North Mississippi Hollywood
Member since Oct 2012
11606 posts
Posted on 9/26/13 at 9:04 am to
I say we just pay them minimum wage like if they had been working for the Bursar's Office or something.


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