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This article could not be any more spot on about Saturday IMO

Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:36 pm
Posted by CreoleAubie
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:36 pm
I mean - jesus. He nails it all.



From Will Collier, Rivals


AUBURN | The LSU loss exposed a host of Auburn's weaknesses, although they were hardly hidden before Saturday: A defense that can't make stops or cover in the middle, an offense without a dependable passing game and general inconsistency in all three phases of the game.

The rain Saturday night did little to cool Gus Malzahn's temper during the first quarter.
Even the kicking game, where the Tigers have been remarkably solid through thick and thin during the past three coaching regimes, let Auburn down with a devastating dropped snap and a goose-egg-for-two on AU's signature onside-kick coverage.

In a wet night on the road, those things are going to happen (and as we saw in the Florida-Tennessee comedy of errors, it doesn't even have to be raining). The trouble was, Auburn didn't have enough in the tank to overcome the inevitable slop of a rain game and couldn't come up with a coherent strategy to out-duel a loaded Bengal squad.

Anybody looking at these two teams could see Auburn was physically outmatched at many positions, particularly up front. To pull off the win, Auburn would have to take chances, game plan and execute perfectly -- and probably still need a couple of breaks. Only two of those four things happened. The Tigers took all kinds of chances and got a break or two (most notably at the beginning of the second half), but the in-game calls and execution were inconsistent at best. The defense has no answer for an up-the-gut running game and still can't get enough pressure on the quarterback. Nick Marshall took a big step backward in terms of passing accuracy and didn't get enough help from his stone-handed receivers or his coaches.

I understand and generally agree with going for it on 4th-and-short in a game like this. Auburn had to play aggressive to have any chance to win, butm of course, if you don't convert on those aggressive calls, the other guys' band is going to play a lot. The four-of-five failed conversions were essentially extra turnovers added to Marshall's two picks, a fumble (itself on a failing fourth-down conversation, making the fumble itself superfluous), and Steven Clark's bobbled punt. Two of those miscues set up easy LSU touchdowns.

That was the difference in the game.

Sum all that up and Auburn handed the ball over to LSU seven times, which would be a recipe for disaster even under optimal conditions against a weak opponent. And that's not counting the two failed onside kicks, a play that Auburn had previously run better than anybody else in the country for at least a decade.

One recurring criticism of Malzahn's play calling is a tendency to change tactics in mid-game (or even mid-drive) when the plays his team had been running up to that point were working fine. In this case, LSU's defense had no more of an answer for Tre Mason than Auburn's did for sucker-punching running back Jeremy Hill, but Malzahn repeatedly switched gears to Marshall's erratic arm, or worse, a fooling-nobody Kiehl Frazier "Wildcat" play.

Granted, Malzahn and his assistants are a lot better at reading a defense than I am, but I still don't get that. It's one thing to throw a defense a change they aren't expecting trying for a big play. It's something else to "get cute" and kill a drive with plays that haven't worked before and aren't likely to work now.


It wasn't what I'd call a good loss. Those are more rare than a sober fan in Baton Rouge and teams that like to talk about how they played well in losing tend to lose a lot. But even commenters who accurately noted that LSU controlled most of the game also agreed that Auburn has come a long way in a short time.

The two teams tallied up remarkably similar statistics although you have to think a good portion of Auburn's offensive numbers were courtesy of an LSU defense that didn't maintain its intensity during the second half. Still, I don't think Auburn could have moved the ball 437 yards against air in an SEC game a year ago -- and there was certainly no quit in the Tigers Saturday night.

Those are good things and should be valuable going forward. But while the first third of 2013 has shown that, yes, Auburn is up off the mat and getting better, the gaps in the Tigers' attack are also out there for everyone to see.

And you can bet the rest of the league, most of which is looming on the schedule after Auburn returns from this week's break, is taking notes.

Posted by LA kid but AU fan
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:39 pm to
I kige this
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:41 pm to
Collier does some of the best Auburn writing around (along with Van Plexico and John Ringer).

He co-wrote a book about the Auburn/Bama rivalry called "The Uncivil War" (he wrote the Auburn part, a Bama guy wrote the Bama part) covering the Iron Bowls from 1981-1994.

Great read if you can find yourself a used copy (pretty sure its out of print).
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

Auburn's did for sucker-punching running back Jeremy Hill,


Wow, how I want to post this on the rant just to bait the LSU fans with this line
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:48 pm to
It's a little over the top. He touches on some good points though.

quote:

general inconsistency in all three phases of the game.
I agree with this, although special teams has been fairly consistent.

quote:

Nick Marshall took a big step backward in terms of passing accuracy and didn't get enough help from his stone-handed receivers or his coaches.
Mostly accurate, but a bit of hyperbole as far as Marshall taking a big step back.

quote:

One recurring criticism of Malzahn's play calling is a tendency to change tactics in mid-game (or even mid-drive) when the plays his team had been running up to that point were working fine. In this case, LSU's defense had no more of an answer for Tre Mason than Auburn's did for sucker-punching running back Jeremy Hill, but Malzahn repeatedly switched gears to Marshall's erratic arm, or worse, a fooling-nobody Kiehl Frazier "Wildcat" play.
Frazier and the wildcat makes no sense. As far as going to Marshall's erratic arm, Mason won't be good if we aren't a threat to pass the ball. Again, I agree Gus didn't call a great first half, just feel the writer is going a touch overboard in tone again.

quote:

Granted, Malzahn and his assistants are a lot better at reading a defense than I am, but I still don't get that. It's one thing to throw a defense a change they aren't expecting trying for a big play. It's something else to "get cute" and kill a drive with plays that haven't worked before and aren't likely to work now.

Nothing over board about this. I agree completely.
quote:

Those are good things and should be valuable going forward. But while the first third of 2013 has shown that, yes, Auburn is up off the mat and getting better, the gaps in the Tigers' attack are also out there for everyone to see.

Agree with the writer again here.
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:52 pm to
I agree on a lot of what he said, but he was blowing things out of proportion.
Posted by aubiecat
Alabama
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 3:52 pm to
Like wow, like OMG.
Posted by CreoleAubie
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:06 pm to
I don't know - I hope he was in fact blowing things out of proportion. But my gutt tells me that Lashlee and Gus are still pacifying Marshall, particularly in the press conferences. And this bothers me. Lashlee said the weather was why NM sucked in the first half. Yeah, the weather sucked. But aside from the ball slipping oddly out of his hands a few times, he still missed open guys badly a few times - and he has continued to do that since the WSU game. Couple that with a kind of side-arm release, and he gets his ball knocked down a bit too much. (His 2 long balls in the game clearly were perfect - and I can't explain that.)

The biggest issue I have is that Lashlee and Gus felt the need to divert away from what was working - i.e. they tried to pass and run wide stunts more than I think they needed to. In that kind of weather, I don't think we had to do that. Yes, I understand that eventually they will stack the box and the numbers won't work - but it wasn't happening yet. Zack threw 8 balls in the first half. They ran the rest of the time. We threw twice as many times. I think we could have pounded CAP and Mason like the old days and continued to exercise our will.

And by the way - if he is fast, he ain't showing it. Got run down from behind by a DE.

Just my thoughts....not wanting to rail on the guy or pull him or anything. Part of the fun of watching a team get good again is dissecting the things you think have hope. Here's hoping we continue to improve - it is already light years better than last year. WEGL
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:10 pm to
They need to just let Marshall run the read option and instead of running out of bounds, make a play. Let him cut up the middle
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

They need to just let Marshall run the read option and instead of running out of bounds, make a play. Let him cut up the middle


I can't remember one time all year where we've run the read-option with Marshall running up the middle. maybe we're saving it, IDK?... probably just don't want to get our QB killed.

The thing that really gives me hope on marshall is he's still very raw... some of the things he does make me go WTF (throwing the ball two yards past the LOS when we had running room... throwing to a WR 20 yards down field on 3rd and 2).

he'll get better with the mental side of things... get more comfortable with this offense. I'm hoping a lot of his development comes during this bye week.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 9/23/13 at 6:02 pm to
I agree with your take on the article wde
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 9/23/13 at 6:35 pm to
Marshall up the middle on a read option is asking For Michael Vick type injury.problems. I wrote about this so many times alrwady on this board about.how we need a 225 lb Qb to effectively run the inverted veer and inside qb runs.

I agree he is more raw than the hamburger meat marinating kn my fridge right now
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