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Mac Brown and Texas-Under Performer or scapegoat to bad seasons

Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:40 am
Posted by Spinal Tap
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:40 am
I think he is an Under Performer. Texas is the most football crazed state I have ever visited with high school stadiums seating 10,00+. The talent he has and has access to is unbelievable, yet he always has trouble finishing in the top 5. For a team that has been so good for so long and only won one championship, that can be pretty disappointing. I feel like a coach who has proved himself by building a program could go further than a coach that was put in an already good program
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:41 am to
BigXII Board?
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:43 am to
Once UT gets out of the big 12 (maybe they can strike a deal with the Pac 12), then they will become a premier team again.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:43 am to
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Once UT gets out of the big 12 (maybe they can strike a deal with the Pac 12), then they will become a premier team again.


I think this as well. I think at some point they abandon the LHN and head West.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25056 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:48 am to
quote:

I think he is an Under Performer. Texas is the most football crazed state I have ever visited with high school stadiums seating 10,00+. The talent he has and has access to is unbelievable, yet he always has trouble finishing in the top 5. For a team that has been so good for so long and only won one championship, that can be pretty disappointing. I feel like a coach who has proved himself by building a program could go further than a coach that was put in an already good program



He's so bad, yet somehow his team came in and put 66 points up on Mississippi last year and 676 yards of offense. It is my fondest hope that Ole Miss atones this year at DKR.
Posted by Spinal Tap
Member since Sep 2013
55 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:50 am to
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He's so bad, yet somehow his team came in and put 66 points up on Mississippi last year and 676 yards of offense


i never said ole miss was a good team, and that texas was bad. they are a great team that finishes good every year, brown just cant fit the last piece to win the crystal football
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:51 am to
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i never said ole miss was a good team, and that texas was bad. they are a great team that finishes good every year, brown just cant fit the last piece to win the crystal football




No one said you did.
Posted by redleg82
Virginia
Member since Jan 2012
218 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:56 am to
Leave the Big 12?

They are the creators of the current Big 12-2 which provides them everything that they need, why leave?

Perhaps after Dodds and Mack leave.
Posted by tommeehawk
Member since Sep 2011
111 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:02 am to
Actually Mack did win that crystal , and played for it against Bama just a few years ago.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:04 am to
If Texas goes Pac 12 (which will be extremely complicated and difficult for them to do) it is actually a worse move.

Moving to the Pac they would likely be able to take 3 other schools with them but that means they will still be spread out like crazy and their Texas recruiting base will take a major hit. Currently no Pac teams are even in the Central Time Zone and most are in the Pacific, the amount of travel involved for their fans and players will be immense. It will magnify A&M's SEC advantage.

The best move for Texas is to get the Big 12 to merge with the ACC. That's really their only play that makes sense. If the Big 12 adds FSU, Clemson, GTech, NC State, VTech, and Pitt (all of which are schools that really aren't wanted by the SEC and only GTech is a consideration for the Big 1G) then it helps them immensely. Miami is another possibility and they may even be able to get an ACC type deal with Notre Dame. That's not happening though until UNC and UVA finally decide to give up on the ACC.

As for Mack himself, he has run his course and he has lost his luster. Texas needs new blood but they need it at a higher level even moreso with Dodds needing to go. They are still trying to live in the world of 5 years ago and it just doesn't exist anymore.
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:05 am to


Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Once UT gets out of the big 12 (maybe they can strike a deal with the Pac 12), then they will become a premier team again.

Let's hope that the litigation and subsequent drama of Baylor et al hanging on to bevo's leg, begging for mercy doesn't start for the next 13 years (grant of rights) and drags on for another 5 years.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:27 pm to
With TWC picking up the LHN that part of conference realignment is done until the end of the GOR.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:35 pm to
quote:


I think this as well. I think at some point they abandon the LHN and head West.



Him being in the pac12 gets him access to CA and TX recruits. Pretty beastly.
Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

(which will be extremely complicated and difficult for them to do)


Why?

quote:

Moving to the Pac they would likely be able to take 3 other schools with them but that means they will still be spread out like crazy and their Texas recruiting base will take a major hit. Currently no Pac teams are even in the Central Time Zone and most are in the Pacific, the amount of travel involved for their fans and players will be immense. It will magnify A&M's SEC advantage.


How so? If they take 3 teams with them (OU, OK St, and either Baylor or TT) then those teams will be in close proximity.

TAMU has to travel an extensive amount to play someone not named LSU or Arkansas in the SEC. The Miss schools is like the AZ schools would be to UT.

quote:

The best move for Texas is to get the Big 12 to merge with the ACC. That's really their only play that makes sense. If the Big 12 adds FSU, Clemson, GTech, NC State, VTech, and Pitt (all of which are schools that really aren't wanted by the SEC and only GTech is a consideration for the Big 1G) then it helps them immensely. Miami is another possibility and they may even be able to get an ACC type deal with Notre Dame. That's not happening though until UNC and UVA finally decide to give up on the ACC.


and you're worried about travel in the PAC? The pac schools have a lot more money than the ACC schools.

Posted by Moustache
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 3:47 pm to
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done until the end of the GOR.


What is GOR?
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