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UGA vs Clemson - Box Score Analysis
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:13 pm
This game was a close as advertised. The difference ended up being a blown FG attempt that was extra point distance. But the truth is as is often the case, we lost this game in the trenches. Defense as usual is the limiting factor for our team. 35 points is plenty to win most games but not against a high powered offense like Clemson's. Murray's 2 TO's (fumble and INT) were part of the difference in the game. Our OL got owned most of the night which severely limited practical play calling. Murray's inability to execute a short pass/screen, apparently due to his height, hurts our offense against any aggressive DL. Gurley is a much better between the tackles RB than is Marshall and Gurley going out with an injury hurt our offense a lot. We need to find ways to get Marshall out in space. He should be used more like Florida used Percy Harvin.
Box Score Summary:
1. We had 22 first downs; one more than Clemson
2. We had more rushing yards than Clemson, 222 vs 197. Gurley in spite of his injury was the leading rusher in the game with 154 yards on just 12 carries.
3. We had more passing yardage than Clemson, 323 to 270. Murray spread the ball pretty evenly to 4 receivers: Conley, Bennett, Scott-Wesley and Wooten. Marshall had 2 catches for 28 yards.
4. We had one more TO than did Clemson 2 to 1, both by Murray.
5. Penalties were a factor. We had 9 for 84 compared to just 5-38.
6. Special teams weren't a factor on either side other than the bad snap on that routine FG. Just goes to show you all it takes is one mistake to loss a close contest. Barber averaged 47.4 yards on 5 punts. Clemson did have 60 total yards returning 3 of our kickoffs; we had zero return yards on kickoffs and Swann had 4 yards on 1 punt return.
My assessment:
1. We need a much better OL to win a NC.
2. Murray does not have good pocket instincts and doesn't have enough athletic ability in most cases to escape to the outside and make a play. He did make one good roll-out pass for a first down though. We are limited to slower developing pass plays due to Murray's height. Usually when he tries to throw a screen or any quick pass they seem to get batted down. Clemson was ready for Murray's back shoulder throws and they were on our receivers like white on rice. We should have done more stop and go routes but of course Murray rarely had enough time for any long developing plays.
3. Our secondary played better than I expected but we are not close to having a championship level defense.
Box Score Summary:
1. We had 22 first downs; one more than Clemson
2. We had more rushing yards than Clemson, 222 vs 197. Gurley in spite of his injury was the leading rusher in the game with 154 yards on just 12 carries.
3. We had more passing yardage than Clemson, 323 to 270. Murray spread the ball pretty evenly to 4 receivers: Conley, Bennett, Scott-Wesley and Wooten. Marshall had 2 catches for 28 yards.
4. We had one more TO than did Clemson 2 to 1, both by Murray.
5. Penalties were a factor. We had 9 for 84 compared to just 5-38.
6. Special teams weren't a factor on either side other than the bad snap on that routine FG. Just goes to show you all it takes is one mistake to loss a close contest. Barber averaged 47.4 yards on 5 punts. Clemson did have 60 total yards returning 3 of our kickoffs; we had zero return yards on kickoffs and Swann had 4 yards on 1 punt return.
My assessment:
1. We need a much better OL to win a NC.
2. Murray does not have good pocket instincts and doesn't have enough athletic ability in most cases to escape to the outside and make a play. He did make one good roll-out pass for a first down though. We are limited to slower developing pass plays due to Murray's height. Usually when he tries to throw a screen or any quick pass they seem to get batted down. Clemson was ready for Murray's back shoulder throws and they were on our receivers like white on rice. We should have done more stop and go routes but of course Murray rarely had enough time for any long developing plays.
3. Our secondary played better than I expected but we are not close to having a championship level defense.
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Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:21 pm to davesdawgs
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My assessment:
1. We need a much better OL to win a NC.
2. Murray does not have good pocket instincts and doesn't have enough athletic ability in most cases to escape to the outside and make a play. He did make one good roll-out pass for a first down though. We are limited to slower developing pass plays due to Murray's height. Usually when he tries to throw a screen or any quick pass they seem to get batted down. Clemson was ready for Murray's back shoulder throws and they were on our receivers like white on rice. We should have done more stop and go routes but of course Murray rarely had enough time for any long developing plays.
3. Our secondary played better than I expected but we are not close to having a championship level defense.
I think the OL will be fine. Did they struggle? MOST definitely. I am chalking it up to first game...players in new positions etc. They will gell and become a cohesive unit, IMO. I HAVE been wrong before, though!
Not sure I agree with your assessment of Murray. he has shown too many times before he can break it outside. he may be out of practice, since the coaches have wanted him to stay in the pocket more. I think you will see him do better as the year moves along in this regard. One reason, it seemed as if he could not break it outside, is because the pocket was collapsing from the outside. they were putting pressure from the edges, then coming in the middle. Just my opinion form what I noticed, though.
I agree about the defense. It is not championship level right now. We have to hope the offense continues to put up huge numbers, as they are capable of doing...and the defense comes together to become adequate. It is what it is. We will have to do the best we can do.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:38 pm to davesdawgs
special teams not a factor? what was i watching, then?
Posted on 9/1/13 at 12:41 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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special teams not a factor? what was i watching, then?
I said other than the bad snap on that blown FG, special teams were not really a factor. You have to read entire sentences.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:27 pm to davesdawgs
Other than the five touchdowns, tajh Boyd didn't do shite
Posted on 9/1/13 at 1:51 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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Other than the five touchdowns, tajh Boyd didn't do shite
Bad comparison. Obviously 5 plays scoring TD's were significant not even counting the 18 completions for 270 yards. Now tell me what special teams plays were significant other than the blown FG?
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:05 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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Other than the five touchdowns, tajh Boyd didn't do shite
Umm, the dude was their short yardage threat? You're kidding right? Tajh killed it last night, with or without georgia ineptitude. He missed a few balls and a few open routes went unnoticed but overall that kid was the catalyst to their offense's productivity.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:15 pm to davesdawgs
Penalties at really big moments hurt us tremendously. Actually to say they fricked us royally and cost us the game more than anything is probably the better way to put it.
Swann letting 3 punts bounce hurt. Notice he was finally taken out so McGowen could at least fair catch them.
A couple of our kickoffs didn't even make it to the 10 yard line. They got to start a few drives on their 40-45 while we started all of ours at the 25.
And of course the flubbed snap on the field goal ended up being a huge deal.
Special teams absolutely was a big deal. That and our OL completely shitting the bed in the second quarter and half of the third quarter. Plus of course AM turn overs and throwing 5 or 6 balls in the dirt.
So disappointing.
Swann letting 3 punts bounce hurt. Notice he was finally taken out so McGowen could at least fair catch them.
A couple of our kickoffs didn't even make it to the 10 yard line. They got to start a few drives on their 40-45 while we started all of ours at the 25.
And of course the flubbed snap on the field goal ended up being a huge deal.
Special teams absolutely was a big deal. That and our OL completely shitting the bed in the second quarter and half of the third quarter. Plus of course AM turn overs and throwing 5 or 6 balls in the dirt.
So disappointing.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:18 pm to Damn Good Dawg
You're not getting it
ETA: also didn't Sammy Watkins fumble a punt?
ETA: also didn't Sammy Watkins fumble a punt?
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:22 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Eh, my bad, didn't read the first few responses. My bad if I took out of context, again I blame Obama
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:24 pm to davesdawgs
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1. We need a much better OL to win a NC.
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We are limited to slower developing pass plays
I think these 2 are related. Our OL is good enough (or soon will be). But we made it easy on Clemson's DL by failing to execute the short passing game.
We are what they thought we were. And THAT is the problem. We are a solvable puzzle for the good teams on our schedule.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:27 pm to BeefDawg
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Penalties at really big moments hurt us tremendously. Actually to say they fricked us royally and cost us the game more than anything is probably the better way to put it.
Agree but penalties not part of special teams.
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Swann letting 3 punts bounce hurt. Notice he was finally taken out so McGowen could at least fair catch them.
Yea, I forgot about those so yes, I agree that was some poor special teams play.
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A couple of our kickoffs didn't even make it to the 10 yard line. They got to start a few drives on their 40-45 while we started all of ours at the 25.
OK, have to agree here also. They did have 60 total return yards on 3 kickoffs which gave them good field position.
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Special teams absolutely was a big deal.
The blown FG was significant. I don't see the other stuff as much of a factor as the OL play, Murray's TO's and the overall lack of defense. But I do agree that special teams was more of a factor than I cited in my assessment.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:31 pm to davesdawgs
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Box Score Analysis
Quick question.............
Did the box score record our first offensive play as a penalty, pass, or run?
I checked and it said "penalty". Just want to make sure I don't need glasses........
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:37 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Box Score Analysis
Quick question.............
Did the box score record our first offensive play as a penalty, pass, or run?
I checked and it said "penalty". Just want to make sure I don't need glasses........
Thanks in advance.
Based on ESPN's Play by Play:
1st and 10 at UGA 20 GEORGIA penalty 5 yard False Start on David Andrews accepted.
The next actual play which I would consider the first play:
1st and 15 at UGA 15 Aaron Murray pass complete to Todd Gurley for 1 yard to the Geo 16.
So I would say the first play was a pass. I say this because a false start penalty occurs before a play is executed though granted the play that was called during the false start might well have been a different call than was run after the false start penalty was enforced.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:42 pm to davesdawgs
You just contradicted yourself though.
You said......
If the pass play was "the next actual play", then you are admitting that the penalty was the First Play.
What am I missing here?
You said......
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The next actual play which I would consider the first play
If the pass play was "the next actual play", then you are admitting that the penalty was the First Play.
What am I missing here?
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:43 pm to davesdawgs
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Based on ESPN's Play by Play
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1st and 10 at UGA 20 GEORGIA penalty 5 yard False Start on David Andrews accepted.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 2:47 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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The next actual play which I would consider the first play
If the pass play was "the next actual play", then you are admitting that the penalty was the First Play.
What am I missing here?
Nothing. As I edited, you could argue that a different play had been called after the false start. But as I said, the false start does occur before a play is actually executed. As soon as it happens, the whistle is blown and play stops. Maybe the best way to resolve it in the Hunger Games is to clarify what constitutes a play. If I remember correctly in your wording it said: will the first play be a run or a pass so penalty wasn't cited as an option. OK went back and looked at your wording:
10) Georgia's first offensive play.....Run or a Pass?
Maybe the simplest thing to do is edit your Hunger Games post to include Penalty as an option assuming that will be an option in the criteria for the next week of the Hunger Games.
This post was edited on 9/1/13 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/1/13 at 3:06 pm to davesdawgs
There's valid arguments either way. Neither is right. Neither is wrong....... So, we'll probably just nullify the pick entirely and remove it from the total.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 3:21 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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There's valid arguments either way. Neither is right. Neither is wrong....... So, we'll probably just nullify the pick entirely and remove it from the total.
Sounds good to me.
Posted on 9/1/13 at 6:43 pm to davesdawgs
What the box score (and my eyes) tells me:
Marshall can't now nor ever likely will be able to run up the middle. Just doesn't have "it". The sooner we realize we have 1 running back, the better we will be.
Take out the 75 yard run and Gurley is still almost twice his ypc with the same o-line.
He his great for giving Gurley a rest and setup plays but shouldn't be in for an entire series. Good on screen passes and toss sweeps.
How many times did we run him up the middle..10/12??? For 2 yards a pop.
Marshall can't now nor ever likely will be able to run up the middle. Just doesn't have "it". The sooner we realize we have 1 running back, the better we will be.
Take out the 75 yard run and Gurley is still almost twice his ypc with the same o-line.
He his great for giving Gurley a rest and setup plays but shouldn't be in for an entire series. Good on screen passes and toss sweeps.
How many times did we run him up the middle..10/12??? For 2 yards a pop.
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