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Are you projected through someone else?

Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:34 pm
Posted by mograyback
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:34 pm
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Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:35 pm to
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Is sports your outlet because you're essentially a powerless and helpless person?



If that were the case, I certainly wouldn't be a Tennessee fan.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:38 pm to
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If that were the case, I certainly wouldn't be a Tennessee fan.


That makes no sense. Question has nothing to do with picking the best team to be a fan of.... and thanks for making a comment while ignoring the link.
Posted by CatFan81
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:39 pm to
If that were the case, I certainly wouldn't be a Kentucky fan.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:40 pm to
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That makes no sense. Question has nothing to do with picking the best team to be a fan of.... and thanks for making a comment while ignoring the link.


Aw, baby, don't be like that.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:41 pm to
I made it about a minute in. I can only take so much of someone being all "you think you're a warrior because you watch sports, what a joke".
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:44 pm to
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I can only take so much of someone being all "you think you're a warrior because you watch sports, what a joke".


Yeah, frick those people. I can't even be friends with someone that doesn't love sports.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:46 pm to
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I made it about a minute in. I can only take so much of someone being all "you think you're a warrior because you watch sports, what a joke".


I think its interesting that this was designed long ago to help control the masses.
Posted by GoBigOrange86
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:46 pm to
The premise would certainly make for an interesting science fiction novel.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:47 pm to
Alan Watt is a fricking retard. I am a sports fan, but I enjoy other things just as much if not more than sports.

If human competition doesn't interest you, then you have already given up..
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:47 pm to
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The premise would certainly make for an interesting science fiction novel.



Well it's real life.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:49 pm to
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Alan Watt is a fricking retard. I am a sports fan, but I enjoy other things just as much if not more than sports.

If human competition doesn't interest you, then you have already given up..


I agree with this, very much.

But, on the large scale what he's saying is right. And its most interesting that this sports culture was designed long ago with manipulative motives.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:50 pm to
I find it interesting that you feel this way yet you're an avid sports fan and played sports on the collegiate level yourself.
Posted by Hardy_Har
MS
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:53 pm to
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I agree with this, very much.

But, on the large scale what he's saying is right. And its most interesting that this sports culture was designed long ago with manipulative motives.


What he is calling a sports fan is sitting on the lunatic fringe side of fandom..

His video is no different than lumping all Muslims into terrorists..

But you get my drift
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 1:54 pm to
Yes. If the Gators lose, I beat up woman and children to reclaim my man hood.
Posted by Mizzeaux
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 2:09 pm to
It brings up a great point about the control the media has over the vast majority of people in western countries. The veracity of the information given for public consumption is rarely questioned.

However, in my opinion saying that sports and sports culture was designed to control the masses is a case of over simplifying the situation by creating some conspiracy.

I think sports have grown in popularity over the last century and a half because the progress of society as a whole has taken a good portion of what are widely considered "manly duties" like hunting for food, competing for rank among a group, and overall assertiveness/aggressiveness and made them almost counter cultural likely for the good of society as a whole.

Whether or not that's good for people overall and men specifically is another question.

Sports fanaticism is a symptom of the neutralization of manliness through the abundance industrialized society has created, not the cause.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 2:28 pm to
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It brings up a great point about the control the media has over the vast majority of people in western countries. The veracity of the information given for public consumption is rarely questioned.

However, in my opinion saying that sports and sports culture was designed to control the masses is a case of over simplifying the situation by creating some conspiracy.

I think sports have grown in popularity over the last century and a half because the progress of society as a whole has taken a good portion of what are widely considered "manly duties" like hunting for food, competing for rank among a group, and overall assertiveness/aggressiveness and made them almost counter cultural likely for the good of society as a whole.

Whether or not that's good for people overall and men specifically is another question.

Sports fanaticism is a symptom of the neutralization of manliness through the abundance industrialized society has created, not the cause.


Great post.

I really agree with that last sentence. But, I'm not sure the speaker in the video or the people he references like HG Wells think sports is the cause, its not simply that sports culture was designed to control the masses and give men an outlet for manliness in the new industrialized society. They saw it as something that would go hand-in-hand with the new society. There isn't a cause and effect.
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 2:30 pm to
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I think its un-interesting that this was designed long ago to make money from the masses.


FIFY
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 8/24/13 at 2:31 pm to
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I find it interesting that you feel this way yet you're an avid sports fan and played sports on the collegiate level yourself.


I'm metathinking.

I love sports. Have played them my whole life.

I'm observing something from a different angle.
Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/24/13 at 3:53 pm to
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I'm not sure the speaker in the video or the people he references like HG Wells think sports is the cause, its not simply that sports culture was designed to control the masses and give men an outlet for manliness in the new industrialized society. They saw it as something that would go hand-in-hand with the new society. There isn't a cause and effect.



And it makes absolute sense. The whole video is more about the brilliance of HG Wells and others seeing the coming need to supplement the need for male competition that would soon be replaced by a revolution that was yet to occur.

As I was watching the video I paused a documentary about men in the Siberian tundra that completely live off the land and are self sufficient. They have zero need for sports because they're out there competing with wildlife and the environment on a daily basis.

Move these guys in to Moscow and I'd all but guarantee they'd be wearing hockey sweaters and pounding booze to eliminate the void in their life left from not having to struggle for food and control their environment for basic survival.
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