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Questionable National Title Claims

Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:47 am
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:47 am
DISCUSS.

Alabama
1930 - 3 selections to Notre Dame's 9
1934 - 4 selections to Minnesota's 8
1941 - 1 selection to Minnesota's 11 (including the AP) and Texas' 2

Georgia
1927 - 2 selections to Illinois' 5
1946 - 1 selection to Army's 6 and Notre Dame's 10 (including the AP)
1968 - 1 selection to Ohio State's 14 (including the AP and Coaches) and Texas' 3

Kentucky
1950 - 1 selection to Oklahoma's 6 (including the AP and Coaches), Princeton's 2, and Tennessee's 6

Ole Miss
1959 - 3 selections to Syracuse's 15 (including the AP and Coaches)
1962 - 3 selections to USC's 13 (including the AP and Coaches)

Tennessee
1940 - 2 selections to Minnesota's 10 (including the AP) and Stanford's 3
1967 - 1 selection to USC's 13 (including the AP and Coaches)

Texas A&M
1919 - 2 selections to Harvard's 5 and Illinois' 4
1927 - 1 selection to Georgia's 2 and Illinois' 5

*in before diaf*
*in before fo/ky*
*in before tl/dr*
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:48 am to
OP cannot be "in"
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
37570 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:48 am to
Well.. you're going to get a lot of posts in this thread. If that's what you're looking for.
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:52 am to
quote:

If that's what you're looking for.


Musta been lookin for answers.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5561 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:54 am to
You should include the records of all teams. I feel like it is much more pathetic to claim a title when you had one loss and the other team(s) had none.
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 7:55 am
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
Member since Nov 2009
10569 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:54 am to
Those are very questionable including Tennessee's 1940 and 1967. But Bama started all this and we had to claim BS titles too.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:55 am to
Let me defend Georgia a bit here. While the media guide mentions those "claims" to titles, it is not something that the university promotes. You won't see T-shirts with those questionable titles on them and we don't fly flags in the stadium for those titles. It is honestly something rarely mentioned at all, and is included as a "claim" in the media guide, but not something Dawg fans are actively promoting typically.
Posted by 08Gatorbait
Member since Jul 2013
2316 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:56 am to
People claim titles way to liberally here it seems. Don't think I've ever seen auburn claim nine titles and georgia five anywhere but here.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:56 am to
Bama's 1930 team gave up 13 points the whole season
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:58 am to
Auburn 2010
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Alabama
1941 - 1 selection to Minnesota's 11 (including the AP) and Texas' 2

Georgia
1946 - 1 selection to Army's 6 and Notre Dame's 10 (including the AP)
1968 - 1 selection to Ohio State's 14 (including the AP and Coaches) and Texas' 3

Tennessee
1967 - 1 selection to USC's 13 (including the AP and Coaches)


WOW. Just WOW
This post was edited on 8/14/13 at 8:04 am
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 7:59 am to
USCw 2003 - 1 selection to the legitimate BCS champion LSU's BCSNCG win.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:01 am to
quote:

USCw 2003 - 1 selection to the legitimate BCS champion LSU's BCSNCG win.


Agree with this. Any claim to a national title in the BCS era without winning the BCS championship is ridiculous.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:04 am to
No joke. Why let controversy build after the title is "handed out." At least with the BCS, controversy occurs beforehand, and is usually settled after the BCSNCG (except in rare situations like 2004 - where Auburn was slighted).
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Alabama
1930 - 3 selections to Notre Dame's 9
1934 - 4 selections to Minnesota's 8
1941 - 1 selection to Minnesota's 11 (including the AP) and Texas' 2


Just 3?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:07 am to
quote:

where Auburn was slighted


Was bout to say... they really got screwed and it is the only time I found something to be in their favor. Unless they were playing Climpsun.
Posted by Breaux
Member since Nov 2005
3967 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:10 am to
quote:

Alabama


1973

Discuss
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:11 am to
I recognize that I am strongly biased and there is no way to look at 2004 objectively.

That being said, how did auburn get "screwed"? Before the BCE title game that year, NOBODY outside of the state of Alabama believed that the two top teams were not USC and Oklahoma. The BCS formula wasn't even close. So didn't the system actually WORK in this case?

It is always a problem when three undefeated teams are being evaluated for a two team championship game. But I think there have been many, many worse injustices in college football history than that one. The two best of the three undefeated teams played it out. Oklahoma's poor performance may make them suspect NOW, but at the time there was no real argument against them as the 2nd team in the game.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:13 am to
quote:

The BCS formula wasn't even close.


If AU had played Bowling Green instead of the Citadel after Bowling Green backed out, it would have been AU instead of OU in the BCSNCG.

quote:

The two best of the three undefeated teams played it out.


quote:

Oklahoma's poor performance may make them suspect NOW, but at the time there was no real argument against them as the 2nd team in the game.
:rotflmao:
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/14/13 at 8:13 am to
Take away those three (only 1941 is truly questionable IMO) and Bama still has more than everyone else. Jut look at the modern era and Bama has 11 unquestioned championships. Every program in the country wants that type of tradition.
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