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Honest question for Auburn fans, overall are you glad Chizik came there?
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:29 pm
Just curious, I have to admit that winning a NC seems worth no matter how it ended and in the end while many try and diminish it because of Cam's apparent recruiting issues, there were no NCAA violations and you won a NC, embarrsed Ala at home with a comeback, waxed UGA and won a NC. So was it worth it to your fans to have the turmoil? For me I think if I was an Auburn fan I would say yes, just curious how your fan base feels, thanks
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Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:30 pm to lsuallsportsfan
He won them their first title in half a century. Of course they're glad he came.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:31 pm to lsuallsportsfan
Yeah, the national championship and widespread butthurt it caused was fantastic.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:31 pm to lsuallsportsfan
dude, we won a NC for the first time since the 50's
we have had terrible seasons in between that time... I've lived through them, but never lived through a NC
so basically, had National Championship. don't care
we have had terrible seasons in between that time... I've lived through them, but never lived through a NC
so basically, had National Championship. don't care
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:32 pm to lsuallsportsfan
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Cam's apparent recruiting issues
What recruiting issues?
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there were no NCAA violations and you won a NC, embarrsed Ala at home with a comeback, waxed UGA and won a NC.
You really have to ask?
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So was it worth it to your fans to have the turmoil?
Since nothing happened and we won a title...you tell me.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:32 pm to lsuallsportsfan
The overall exerience, yes I'm glad he came. That doesn't mean we still can't be pissed he was a terrible coach who left us in terrible shape.
Also, Malzahn likely wouldn't be here without Chizik's tenure... not sure if that's a good thing or not yet.
Also, Malzahn likely wouldn't be here without Chizik's tenure... not sure if that's a good thing or not yet.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:32 pm to lsuallsportsfan
Overall, I guess I am. Tubs left us with a very significant lack of scholarship players with all the non-qualifiers he signed. We only had about 70 players on scholarship Chizik's first year, practically no linebackers (like 2 on scholly) and a defensive unit that was nowhere close to SEC standards.
Chiz didn't have much to work with in 2009. We had a losing record in 2008, and even less talent in 2009. Chiz did a great job in 2009, then a spectacular job in 2010. 2011 was a year that was pretty much as expected after we lost 19 seniors from the 2010 team.
2012 was a dumpster fire, but Chizik did a good job of rebuilding the roster, restocking the talent and leaving us in better shape than he found us IMO.
Chiz didn't have much to work with in 2009. We had a losing record in 2008, and even less talent in 2009. Chiz did a great job in 2009, then a spectacular job in 2010. 2011 was a year that was pretty much as expected after we lost 19 seniors from the 2010 team.
2012 was a dumpster fire, but Chizik did a good job of rebuilding the roster, restocking the talent and leaving us in better shape than he found us IMO.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:33 pm to TTsTowel
Seems like he hurt/set your program back more than he helped. National Title was great but you didn't reap the benefits of a title like most teams do with continued success and the program just making large strides forward.
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:34 pm to lsuallsportsfan
Yes.
It was worth it.
It was also worth it to fire him.
It was worth it.
It was also worth it to fire him.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:34 pm to gatorhata9
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Seems like he hurt set your program back more than he helped. National Title was great but you didn't reap the benefits of a title like most teams do with continued success and the program just making large strides forward.
If Gus wins 8 or 9 games this year...how far back was our program set?
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:35 pm to lowspark12
The only bad thing that came out of Chizik coming was last year. He recruited plenty of talent for Gus and EJ to work with, we won a NC, had 2 decent years around it, and created a bunch of butt hurt from rival fans. All with a sorry HC.
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:36 pm to parkjas2001
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If Gus wins 8 or 9 games this year...how far back was our program set?
yea I don't really know what he meant by that statement. what immediate benefits are we suppose to be reaping 3 years after a national title? I mean our recruiting is still pretty good, better than before probably. does winning a national championship automatically "reap" you a good following season?
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:40 pm to gatorhata9
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Seems like he hurt/set your program back more than he helped. National Title was great but you didn't reap the benefits of a title like most teams do with continued success and the program just making large strides forward.
the overall talent level and roster is in better shape today than the one Tuberville inherited in 99 and Chizik inherited in 09. I think in 12 months people will be talking about Auburn as a possible SECW contender the for 2014 season... granted, time will tell and much of that is dependent on Malzahn and Staff's abilities.
This post was edited on 7/23/13 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:41 pm to Gnar Cat21
I dare say I'd take the one magical NC season over years of sustained success without getting over the hump.
Raises an interesting question if it is better to have long term success with no titles or a quick peak and then fall to mediocrity.
Raises an interesting question if it is better to have long term success with no titles or a quick peak and then fall to mediocrity.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:42 pm to Bags of Milk
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Raises an interesting question
yea soooo interesting. I've never seen this question raised here before
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:44 pm to Bags of Milk
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I dare say I'd take the one magical NC season over years of sustained success without getting over the hump.
of course... anyone would.
How many fanbases will never get to experience what Auburn fans experienced in Jan 2011?... 80%?... how many SEC fanbases will never experience it in their lifetimes?
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:44 pm to lowspark12
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I think in 12 months people will be talking about Auburn as a possible SECW contender the for 2014 season... granted, time will tell and much of that is dependent on Malzahn and Staff's abilities.
I agree. The number of experienced upperclassmen we will have in 2014 is going to be absurd. Guys that have been multi-year starters and we will pretty much have the same players in 2014 we have this year (along with some potential JUCO studs). So, if Gus and company show they can field a competitive team this year, 2014 will be practically the same team and players with another year of starting experience.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:44 pm to Bags of Milk
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Raises an interesting question if it is better to have long term success with no titles or a quick peak and then fall to mediocrity.
Have this conversation a good bit with my Auburn friends. I go back and forth. I don't know how I'd deal with a 3 win season.
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:45 pm to Bags of Milk
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I dare say I'd take the one magical NC season over years of sustained success without getting over the hump.
I do challenge any school that has not won a BCS title to trade thier last four years with Auburns.
That is 4 Top 10 recruiting classes, 3-0 in bowls(Outback and Peach), a Heisman winner, a BCS title,...and an 0-8 SEC regular season.
A&M, UGA, UT, USC, Arky, UK, Vandy, OM, MSU, Mizzou...would you trade?
Posted on 7/23/13 at 4:45 pm to lsuallsportsfan
Glad he came ,relieved he is gone. 
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