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re: Kentucky vs Ohio State, Michigan, & Alabama in Ohio

Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:28 am to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 8:28 am to
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Not sure how many kids OSU has taken out of the state of Bama




I can't remember the last kid to sign with a Big Ten school from the state of Alabama that was offered by Alabama and Auburn, or other SEC schools for that matter.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:42 am to
ESPN recruit rankings?
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 10:48 am to
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I can't remember the last kid to sign with a Big Ten school from the state of Alabama that was offered by Alabama and Auburn, or other SEC schools for that matter.



Rivals shows that Ameer Abdullah had an Auburn, USCe, Vandy, and UT offers.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:19 am to
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I can't remember the last kid to sign with a Big Ten school from the state of Alabama that was offered by Alabama and Auburn, or other SEC schools for that matter.


michigan signed a pretty highly ranked RB from Madison, AL several years ago... he was a bust.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:23 am to
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michigan signed a pretty highly ranked RB from Madison, AL several years ago... he was a bust.


Max Martin. Forgot about him. Unfortunately for him he was in the same class as Mike Hart.


LINK
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:24 am to
Kentucky will never consistently beat Urban Meyer for recruits, but UK does have the advantage right now of offering immediate playing time and being the closest SEC school to any Midwest recruit.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:51 am to
I know Bama has had a couple of good years in state for talent. Is that a norm for them or is there usually less in state talent there?

I think OSU is going to be very regional, and then pick up skill position guys from across the country. They will also likely get half the best Ohio players, with Michigan picking up 30-40% and everyone else getting 10-20% in most years

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72100 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 2:28 pm to
I still can't get used to Nebraska being a Big Ten school. So Ameer Abdullah and that's really it over the last few years?


Max Martin ended up transferring to Alabama after two years, but then quit football.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72100 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 2:29 pm to
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I know Bama has had a couple of good years in state for talent. Is that a norm for them or is there usually less in state talent there?



Alabama has some banner years like 1999, 2000, and 2008, then seems to go into a drought. The 2008 class was absolutely amazing. 2009 wasn't bad either, but it hasn't been as good since.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35462 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:10 pm to
Snodgrass had an offer, not an OFFER. The next player that Kentucky gets that Ohio State truly wanted will be the first.


As you said, this will hurt the rest of the B1G and the MAC but it will have zero effect on Ohio State, Michigan or Alabama recruiting.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 4:50 pm to
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Snodgrass had an offer, not an OFFER. The next player that Kentucky gets that Ohio State truly wanted will be the first.




Are you sure you're not a LSU fan cause you sure are acting like it.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 5:01 pm to
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Kentucky will never consistently beat Urban Meyer for recruits, but UK does have the advantage right now of offering immediate playing time and being the closest SEC school to any Midwest recruit.


Depends on how UK winds up long term. Stoops is the great unknown but lets say he puts together a string of 8+ win seasons at UK coupled with the SEC brand and he could easily flip some OH kids seeing the SEC on TV all the time. Urban recruiting Ohio will not be as prolific as recruiting Florida. It has been a decade since the Buckeyes won a MNC so how many recruits coming of age have B1G MNC memories?

Oddly I can see a change in recruiting dynamics in the state of OH. For years the Buckeyes had the monopoly with only Michigan to make serious raids. Louisville gets the ACC into OH and Kentucky gets the SEC into OH and now you no longer have the monopoly. It will be interesting to see what happens next.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 5:31 pm to
If a kid from Ohio is given an offer to go play for Ohio they are going to take it more times than not. People here are fanatical about anOSU.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41509 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 5:52 pm to
So, the Buckeyes are not recruiting Elam then, eh?
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23100 posts
Posted on 6/20/13 at 6:00 pm to
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So, the Buckeyes are not recruiting Elam then, eh?



I think that was more in regards to Ohio born players going to Kentucky over OSU

I would be surprised if Elam chose the Buckeyes at this point, although he was in for a visit today
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 6/20/13 at 11:12 pm to
Ya, I was talking about kids from Ohio going to Ohio.

Elam is from Kentucky. It will be interesting to see if UK can keep him home. The last two Bama-UK recruiting battles were Brandon Deaderick and Shaun Alexander.

As for Urbz locking down the top kids from Ohio, the way UM is recruiting in Ohio reminds me a lot of Saban recruiting in Louisiana early in his Bama tenure. Pulling solid kids, but not the instate schools top targets. The question is can Michigan pull Landon Collins.
This post was edited on 6/20/13 at 11:18 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35462 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:18 pm to
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As for Urbz locking down the top kids from Ohio, the way UM is recruiting in Ohio reminds me a lot of Saban recruiting in Louisiana early in his Bama tenure. Pulling solid kids, but not the instate schools top targets. The question is can Michigan pull Landon Collins.


Well stated. Meyer is going to get the Ohio kids he really wants 95 or more times out of 100. Kalis and Dymonte Thomas are the exceptions, not the rule and if Meyer was there a year earlier they'd both be wearing scarlet and gray IMO.

Louisville and Kentucky will have marginal success at best when they're head to head against Ohio State and Michigan for the top tier Ohio kids.
This post was edited on 6/21/13 at 10:19 pm
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35462 posts
Posted on 6/21/13 at 10:21 pm to
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Are you sure you're not a LSU fan cause you sure are acting like it.


It's pretty clear that there are commitable offers and that there are come to camp and work your arse off and get your grades up and we'll take you offers.

Lonnie Johnson is a recent commit who turned one of those into a comittable offer this year.
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