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Alabama Football: Are Alabama's High Picks Falling Short?



I do not agree with the article, but I thought it would bring some valuable discussion. What players, from the recent Alabama teams, do you consider busts at this point? Who do you consider successes? Who needs more time? Who has the potential to have a great career? Who needs a new start? These could all be focal points of a great discussion.

Alabama Football: Are Alabama's High Picks Falling Short?
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No. 1: Lack of Saban-Like Discipline
What happens when the players step away from that team-first environment? What happens when they go from being one part of a big team to one employee of a big team and are left to their own devices? Sometimes, they’ve bought in to the Alabama way to such a great extent that they’re immediately lost the moment they step away from it.
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No. 2: Unused to a Lack of Success
While McClain’s fellow Crimson Tide first-round draft picks didn’t flame out as spectacularly as he did, they too might have been caught just as unprepared for adversity in the NFL.
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No. 3: Better Team Players Than Star Players?
Maybe all those Alabama defensive players that have been selected in the NFL draft in recent years appeared much better in college because of the talent next to them and the way Saban used their talents instead of having the ability to excel at the next level. Take Terrence Cody, who dominated as a defensive tackle for the Crimson Tide but struggled mightily last year for the Baltimore Ravens.
Also see: Courtney Upshaw's weight issue.



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Teague
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Who cares? frick the NFL.





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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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I am not sure, but I believe this issue has been discussed before.





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Agree with all. So I guess Saban is pretty good.





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CapstoneGrad06
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but I thought it would bring some valuable discussion.


You know exactly what it will do on this board. And that's not one of them.






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Alabama does for them what they're supposed to do for them. Getting them degrees, drafted high and championship rings. Like any other adult, when they get on their own, it's up to them.





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lowspark12
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very true.

with that said, they've had some high profile busts... but some guys are doing well and will do well in the future... hightower will be great in NE... richardson's well on his way to being the best back in the league... warmack will do well in TN.






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CapstoneGrad06
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But other than McClain, who failed massively, who's even been in the NFL long enough to judge? Andre Smith? Well, he's one of the best RTs in the NFL. The best OL the Bengals have. Kareem Jackson was in the 2010 draft class with McClain and has started. But hasn't lived up to 1st round material just yet. The guys in the 2011, 2012, and obviously 2013 haven't even gotten started yet.





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I believe this issue has been discussed before.






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It's eventually going to be their demise. Sure the draft picks look pretty now, but they're turning out to be 100%, garaunteed busts. It's becoming a talking point, and that is not good for the Tide.





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CapstoneGrad06
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with that said, they've had some high profile busts... but some guys are doing well and will do well in the future... hightower will be great in NE... richardson's well on his way to being the best back in the league... warmack will do well in TN.



Which is what I was getting at. But like fans, the media is far too short-sighted and impatient. They're ready to label someone a bust, or not, after one year in the NFL. Like recruiting classes in college, the draft grade doesn't come until down the road.






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lowspark12
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has Smith resigned with Cincinnati?





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It's eventually going to be their demise. Sure the draft picks look pretty now, but they're turning out to be 100%, garaunteed busts. It's becoming a talking point, and that is not good for the Tide.



Did you type that with a straight face?






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CapstoneGrad06
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has Smith resigned with Cincinnati?



He re-signed in April.






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The guys in the 2011, 2012, and obviously 2013 haven't even gotten started yet.


It's kinda safe to say that Ingram was drafted too high.



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It's eventually going to be their demise.


I know what you're getting at, but how is it Saban's fault the kids don't perform in the NFL once they are taken in the draft. I would hate Saban too for giving me a chance to make millions playing football.

However, the Auburn in me hopes you are right...






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Ditto. It's laughable to attempt to make any type of reasonable argument using these stupid conjectures.





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I will never understand McClain. Probably the most NFL ready player Bama has had in last 10 years. Just everything seemed to be there. Incredible athletic ability, ran the defense on the field.





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3legr
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Thought this was about receiver picks. Carry on.





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lowspark12
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i mean the thought that this will be their 'demise'... come on. It's far more likely to come with stuff like crappy QB development or assistant coaches leaving (namely smart)... not because they've had a ton of early rounders not live up to the hype... ... you could even spin that into a positive.





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