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Your thoughts on the evolution of QB recruiting as a whole?
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:54 am
Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:54 am
I've noticed some trends the last few years in QB recruiting across the country, not just at LSU or in the SEC that I wanted to solicit opinions on to see if I'm seeing things accurately.
I think they are specific to QB recruiting, but it's slowly moving in that direction for other positions as well. Though I think that transition is limited in some capacities.
Here goes:
-Geography means little, generally. QB coaches don't care about turning over every rock and scouring the country to find the right fit for their offense. It's more easily doable at the QB position, because they pretty much only recruit a handful of guys anyway. I'm not saying it's rare for an in-state kid to stay home and play at an in-state school, I mean, in TX and CA, there are a lot of schools, it's just natural. I'm saying it's becoming increasingly common for a QB to go anywhere in the country to find what he thinks will be the best fit.
-Domino effect of commitments is more pronounced now than it used to be, and much more pronounced than other positions. A lot of schools recruit the same kids, this isn't news. But most schools know well in advance how many QB spots they have, and it's either one or two. So when a kid is being recruited by South Carolina and Alabama and LSU commits to South Carolina, he takes a spot from a kid being recruited by South Carolina and Tennessee and Auburn. Pretty soon Auburn gets their guy, because he doesn't want to be left out, and so on and so forth. One of the LSU pay site mods talked about the impact of Connor Mitch's commitment last year and how like 8 guys committed to other schools in the next 4 weeks. That doesn't happen at other positions.
-The domino effect is accelerated by the top schools all basically recruiting the same small pool of players. Again, I don't think the selectivity happens to this degree at other positions.
-Generally, QB commitments (even very early ones) tend to stick. Probably a side effect of the domino effect and spots filling in rapid succession, combined with the scarcity of available spots. No one wants to play games and lose their spot.
Thoughts?
For the TL/DR people: Don't want your opinion anyway.
I think they are specific to QB recruiting, but it's slowly moving in that direction for other positions as well. Though I think that transition is limited in some capacities.
Here goes:
-Geography means little, generally. QB coaches don't care about turning over every rock and scouring the country to find the right fit for their offense. It's more easily doable at the QB position, because they pretty much only recruit a handful of guys anyway. I'm not saying it's rare for an in-state kid to stay home and play at an in-state school, I mean, in TX and CA, there are a lot of schools, it's just natural. I'm saying it's becoming increasingly common for a QB to go anywhere in the country to find what he thinks will be the best fit.
-Domino effect of commitments is more pronounced now than it used to be, and much more pronounced than other positions. A lot of schools recruit the same kids, this isn't news. But most schools know well in advance how many QB spots they have, and it's either one or two. So when a kid is being recruited by South Carolina and Alabama and LSU commits to South Carolina, he takes a spot from a kid being recruited by South Carolina and Tennessee and Auburn. Pretty soon Auburn gets their guy, because he doesn't want to be left out, and so on and so forth. One of the LSU pay site mods talked about the impact of Connor Mitch's commitment last year and how like 8 guys committed to other schools in the next 4 weeks. That doesn't happen at other positions.
-The domino effect is accelerated by the top schools all basically recruiting the same small pool of players. Again, I don't think the selectivity happens to this degree at other positions.
-Generally, QB commitments (even very early ones) tend to stick. Probably a side effect of the domino effect and spots filling in rapid succession, combined with the scarcity of available spots. No one wants to play games and lose their spot.
Thoughts?
For the TL/DR people: Don't want your opinion anyway.
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:04 am to ProjectP2294
I love Dan Mullen but he has sucked at recruiting qbs. When he finally signs a good one it turns out he is likely going to go pro in baseball.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 10:59 am to ProjectP2294
I think those are all very good points and spot on in regards to QB recruiting these days. 
In regards to Arkansas' recruiting of good QB's, we have gotten extremely lucky in the last 4 years in regards to local talent being highly rated and haven't had to deal with those issues very much.
Tyler Wilson - 4* #9 QB - lived 75 miles from Fayetteville
Brandon Allen - 4* #5 QB - grew up across the street from campus
Austin - Allen - 4* #17 QB - grew up across the street from campus
Damon Mitchell - 4* #12 Dual Threat - from New Jersey so the only one we've truly gone out of our way to get.
Rafe Peavey - 4* #8 Dual Threat - lives 2.5 hours from campus
And we will most likely land Ty Storey in the '15 class who will assuredly be a 4*, possibly 5*, and he only lives about 75 miles from campus.
It's been a nice luxury in regards to QB recruiting for the past 5 years. Now if we could just start growing some LB's we would be all good.
In regards to Arkansas' recruiting of good QB's, we have gotten extremely lucky in the last 4 years in regards to local talent being highly rated and haven't had to deal with those issues very much.
Tyler Wilson - 4* #9 QB - lived 75 miles from Fayetteville
Brandon Allen - 4* #5 QB - grew up across the street from campus
Austin - Allen - 4* #17 QB - grew up across the street from campus
Damon Mitchell - 4* #12 Dual Threat - from New Jersey so the only one we've truly gone out of our way to get.
Rafe Peavey - 4* #8 Dual Threat - lives 2.5 hours from campus
And we will most likely land Ty Storey in the '15 class who will assuredly be a 4*, possibly 5*, and he only lives about 75 miles from campus.
It's been a nice luxury in regards to QB recruiting for the past 5 years. Now if we could just start growing some LB's we would be all good.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 11:07 am
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:00 am to ProjectP2294
I agree. And QBs tend to all commit between NSD and the end of summer whereas other positions often commit later.
It's also becoming the norm for QBs to enroll early.
Bama hasn't signed an in-state QB since AJ in the '09 class though we would've signed Jameis Winston. Our most recent QB signees have come from Virginia, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Utah, and Colorado.
It's also becoming the norm for QBs to enroll early.
Bama hasn't signed an in-state QB since AJ in the '09 class though we would've signed Jameis Winston. Our most recent QB signees have come from Virginia, Georgia, Florida, Texas, Utah, and Colorado.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/10/13 at 11:56 am to ProjectP2294
All great points. The evolution of HS offenses in Texas has been interesting to watch in regards to QB recruits.
For whatever reason I think the HS coaches here have been ahead of the curve as far as developing offenses at the HS level that translate to what is going to be "in" at the college level. That's a big reason why so many great signal callers are coming from here lately. No idea if that will continue.
For whatever reason I think the HS coaches here have been ahead of the curve as far as developing offenses at the HS level that translate to what is going to be "in" at the college level. That's a big reason why so many great signal callers are coming from here lately. No idea if that will continue.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 12:00 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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For whatever reason I think the HS coaches here have been ahead of the curve as far as developing offenses at the HS level that translate to what is going to be "in" at the college level.
Those reasons are that Texas HSs are flush with cash and can pay well, and the coaches don't have to teach. That's a competitive advantage for those schools that they can pluck good HS coaches from OK, LA, etc and keep them around.
Posted on 5/10/13 at 12:09 pm to ProjectP2294
The crop of QBs in Kentucky has gotten a little better but the reality for UK and UofL is that if you want a quality QB and depth at that position you have no choice but to go out of state for it. The talent pool here is just too shallow, even though QB is typically one of the stronger positions.
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