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On the field production in '13 affecting 'crooting query
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 5/8/13 at 2:59 pm
How much do you think your teams on the field production next year will affect the kids that sign in Feb. 14?
For UA, I don't think very much. UA is a proven product and can't really go up anymore other than to get 3 nattys in a row..and how much could that really change things versus 3 outta 4? Not much if you ask me...
How about for your team?
For UA, I don't think very much. UA is a proven product and can't really go up anymore other than to get 3 nattys in a row..and how much could that really change things versus 3 outta 4? Not much if you ask me...
How about for your team?
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Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:00 pm to NBamaAlum
In our case a good bit... Normally not as much as most folks think...
Everyone knows that a team can have a bad year... (See Alabama prior to Saban)...
Everyone knows that a team can have a bad year... (See Alabama prior to Saban)...
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:02 pm to allin2010
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In our case a good bit...
In which direction?
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:09 pm to NBamaAlum
I think it's variable to every school and it is impacted by how bad or how good a season any team has.
For USC, I don't think it would matter too much b/w going 11-1 or 8-4, b/c the numbers are so tight on scholarships right now anyways. We were only going to sign somewhere b/w 12-17 players anyways.
I would think though that we would get a better class if we went 14-0 than if we went 3-9, just b/c that seems to make sense. Recruits like going into programs they feel they are going to win at. Many of these top level recruits play at HS programs in their state that are winning consistently as well.
For USC, I don't think it would matter too much b/w going 11-1 or 8-4, b/c the numbers are so tight on scholarships right now anyways. We were only going to sign somewhere b/w 12-17 players anyways.
I would think though that we would get a better class if we went 14-0 than if we went 3-9, just b/c that seems to make sense. Recruits like going into programs they feel they are going to win at. Many of these top level recruits play at HS programs in their state that are winning consistently as well.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 3:25 pm to NBamaAlum
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In which direction?
Positively, if I had to guess. I think it's a bigger factor when a teams performance improves than when a good team has an off year.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 6:12 pm to NBamaAlum
Unless LSU absolutely tanks next season, 5+ losses, I don't think it will make much of a difference. If the offense continues to look uninspiring and unimaginative, it will hurt the WR recruiting.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 6:36 pm to NBamaAlum
Just a guess but I think Aub., Tenn. & Ark. really need to show out. W-L & who they beat will be critical for their recruiting efforts for '14... JMO...
Posted on 5/8/13 at 6:38 pm to dallasga6
"See. We've got it going in the right direction."
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Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:00 pm to dallasga6
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Just a guess but I think Aub., Tenn. & Ark. really need to show out. W-L & who they beat will be critical for their recruiting efforts for '14... JMO...
I agree that it would help, but I think the current commits are pretty much unaffected. Most of our current commits are basically saying that Jones told them we will be god awful this year, which is why we need them.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:06 pm to NBamaAlum
quote:I started following recruiting closely back in 2008. Since then, I haven't really noticed a large number of recruits that are turned off by a team having a bad season. If they are historically bad, then yeah, but you don't usually see teams like that land big-time recruits. I guess I'm trying to say that winning definitely helps, but losing doesn't necessarily hurt.
On the field production in '13 affecting 'crooting query
As Tre' Williams said today, he - and all of the guys he will recruit to Auburn - want to start the turnaround.
Posted on 5/8/13 at 11:23 pm to TTsTowel
I think it has more to do with how the team meets expectations. If a team falls within an acceptable range of where people thought they would they are fine.
If the coaches like Butch Jones are saying we are going to blow this year and this is why we need you, then it is fine. If they are selling the program as a top flight on top program (ie LSU or Bama), going 8-5 on the season will hurt because they didn't meet those expectations
If the coaches like Butch Jones are saying we are going to blow this year and this is why we need you, then it is fine. If they are selling the program as a top flight on top program (ie LSU or Bama), going 8-5 on the season will hurt because they didn't meet those expectations
Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:50 am to NBamaAlum
NFL GMs look at players from winning teams with rose colored glasses. so yes, winning is important and if I was a recruit I'd want to play for a winning program. you want to be drafted as highest as possible because you want to get paid up front as much as possible. minimum salary & guarantee if you're an undrafted free agent.
in recent years Bama players got drafted higher than they're supposed to and majority of them turned out to be busts. Auburn had talent but only 1 got drafted after a horrid season.
in recent years Bama players got drafted higher than they're supposed to and majority of them turned out to be busts. Auburn had talent but only 1 got drafted after a horrid season.
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 9:51 am to NBamaAlum
FSU always recruits well. Last year will help, but not much.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:38 am to NBamaAlum
Probably not too much. Everyone knows up front what the shite show was like last season and that improvement will take time. They've been selling guys on immediate PT, to come in and be the "savior", and they know there's a reason for that.
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Posted on 5/9/13 at 10:54 am to NBamaAlum
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How much do you think your teams on the field production next year will affect the kids that sign in Feb. 14?
Its interesting how some teams can have a bad season and have a bad recruiting class bec of it...and others can have the opposite effect.
AU won 3 games and had a Top 10 class. Some players see a poor season and want to turn it around or see early playing time bec maybe they feel they are better.
OTher players see a winning season and say I want to continue that but I am sure there are some playerss that are afraid of competition or just lazy. They see that they may not get on the field so why go to a winning program and sit the bench...I can go to aloser and play and if I ball out, I can get drafted.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 11:26 am to NBamaAlum
Like most things that factor into recruiting... Some kids put more weigth on certain factors than others. For some distance is a deciding factor, for others it might be the number of NFL draftees at their position, getting along well with the guys already there, having a teammate planning to sign with that school, etc etc.
Not often do you hear of recruits putting a lot of stock into on the field performance... but every now and then you get a few in a recruiting cycle that definetely take it into consideration. Just from what I have heard and read from recruiting sites... I think LSU has two targets this year who are not so much looking at actual production (yardage, TDs, etc) but are instead focusing on how the O operates under Cameron. I think as long as he shows those players they will have their oppurtunities under his offensive scheme... actual production won't matter too much. Just my .02
Not often do you hear of recruits putting a lot of stock into on the field performance... but every now and then you get a few in a recruiting cycle that definetely take it into consideration. Just from what I have heard and read from recruiting sites... I think LSU has two targets this year who are not so much looking at actual production (yardage, TDs, etc) but are instead focusing on how the O operates under Cameron. I think as long as he shows those players they will have their oppurtunities under his offensive scheme... actual production won't matter too much. Just my .02
Posted on 5/9/13 at 4:44 pm to volfan30
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Jones told them we will be god awful this year, which is why we need them.
Exactly what freeze did, and if you do better than expected it works out even better.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:35 pm to reb13
It really just depends on what state the program is in. Take Vandy. They're a program that used to be the doormat of the SEC, now they're really on the rise, and these kids are noticing.
But, on the other hand, USC west, went from having the best class in he country, like 14th due to the god awful season they had.
But, on the other hand, USC west, went from having the best class in he country, like 14th due to the god awful season they had.
Posted on 5/9/13 at 5:53 pm to Crompdaddy8
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in recent years Bama players got drafted higher than they're supposed to and majority of them turned out to be busts
What in the frick are you talking about
Posted on 5/9/13 at 6:25 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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What in the frick are you talking about
The ratio of Bama 1st rounders being busts to the non Bama first rounders is pretty impressive
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