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2014 draft as we look into the future
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:16 am
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:16 am
who do you guys think will get drafted. You have to project which rising juniors may declare.
AJ
Pagan
Steen
Cyko
possibly 2 WR's
Fowler as an outside shot depending on his performance in 2013
Belue
Mosley
????? who else
AJ
Pagan
Steen
Cyko
possibly 2 WR's
Fowler as an outside shot depending on his performance in 2013
Belue
Mosley
????? who else
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Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:19 am to mrbroker
Ed Stinson is a senior, unsure of his draft outlook
Posted on 4/28/13 at 8:23 am to mrbroker
Stinson
Hubbard
HaHa
Hubbard
HaHa
Posted on 4/28/13 at 9:26 am to mrbroker
Belue is a rising senior
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:45 am to mrbroker
I firmly believe that if Fowler gets back to 100%, he will get a look in later rounds regardless of production. Same with Norwood and KB7. I'm also an idiot so there is that.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 10:54 am to mrbroker
I just looked at a B/R mock draft that had DePriest going in the 1st round. Said he was a more athletic Hightower. Same draft labeled CJ Mosley a pass-rusher.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 11:00 am to sarc
quote:I think I found your problem.
B/R mock draft
I have AJ, Mosley, Pagan, Hubbard, Belue, HaHa, CyKo, and Steen for sure. Potentially, Fulton, DePriest, Stinson, Norwood, Fowler, and KB7.
This post was edited on 4/28/13 at 11:02 am
Posted on 4/28/13 at 11:16 am to Wrenchruh
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I firmly believe that if Fowler gets back to 100%
I think Fowler received medical RS last year, he will still have two more years of wreaking havoc for Bama
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Same draft labeled CJ Mosley a pass-rusher.
Certainly wouldn't label him as a pass-rusher because he has the complete package imo.
I think CJ is an excellent pass-rusher, not necessarily the elite edge speed rusher but very good timing and instincts up the middle.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 11:34 am to bona fide
Here's what it actually said about CJ:
I agree that he's a good pass rusher but that's not his identity or value as an NFL prospect.
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One of the game's best outside pass-rushers from the 3-4 defense, C.J. Mosley is a potential top-five player for the 2014 draft. The lack of needs from 3-4 teams could push him down the board, though. Mosley in New Orleans would give the team a stout edge-rusher to pair with new defenders Kenny Vaccaro and John Jenkins. In two year's time the Saints' defense would have a new look with tail-kicking, hard-hitting defenders across the board.
I agree that he's a good pass rusher but that's not his identity or value as an NFL prospect.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 12:00 pm to bona fide
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I think Fowler received medical RS last year, he will still have two more years of wreaking havoc for Bama
Even with a medical RS, if Fowler receives a draftable grade, I don't see him returning. His stock won't get any higher with another year. If he can get paid, he should do so.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 12:39 pm to mrbroker
AJ - Top three QB in the draft
Pagan - Beast, may stay though.
Steen - I'd say right now he's the second best Guard behind Gabe Jackson.
CyKo - First or second best Tackle by then, his athleticism at combines and pro days might push him over the top.
KB7 - If he has good speed and doesn't drop a lot of balls, and interviews well, he could be a late round pick. Maybe the team that drafts AJ could grab him late, they're really good friends.
Belue - Depends on the other CBs where he goes, I'd say second or third round could be likely. He's an off man and zone CB who can play the boundary or the slot to be honest, long arms, not bad size. Probably gonna check in at around 5'10" 4/8 and 184lbs or something.
Mosley - First rounder, Top ILB and 43 OLB.
Ed Stinson - Not sure where, but he'll get drafted. Really athletic for his size, probably gonna be on the back end of the draft though.
Adrian Hubbard - I could see him being a first rounder, I mean he's got the great size and upside, really athletic, he's basically everything they said about Dion Jordan, but he's more well coached. I think he has a good season, but he doesn't have to blow up to be a first rounder, he just has to have his head on straight and not get injured.
John Fulton - Gonna be a Senior, has a really good chance of being drafted if he's on the outside this year. Not really a taller press corner, but when he plays press he's great at it, and will probably have good measurables. Not sure if he'll be a higher round pick or not, but I think he can get drafted.
HaHa - Could be the first Safety off the board. Not a hybrid, he's a pure FS. Let's see what he does this year, he might have that Junior drop off some of our Safeties have been having, and then come back for a Senior season where he regains his momentum.
I think if DePriest were to leave early (don't think he will) he would be drafted, if he stays though he could be a higher round pick.
Pagan - Beast, may stay though.
Steen - I'd say right now he's the second best Guard behind Gabe Jackson.
CyKo - First or second best Tackle by then, his athleticism at combines and pro days might push him over the top.
KB7 - If he has good speed and doesn't drop a lot of balls, and interviews well, he could be a late round pick. Maybe the team that drafts AJ could grab him late, they're really good friends.
Belue - Depends on the other CBs where he goes, I'd say second or third round could be likely. He's an off man and zone CB who can play the boundary or the slot to be honest, long arms, not bad size. Probably gonna check in at around 5'10" 4/8 and 184lbs or something.
Mosley - First rounder, Top ILB and 43 OLB.
Ed Stinson - Not sure where, but he'll get drafted. Really athletic for his size, probably gonna be on the back end of the draft though.
Adrian Hubbard - I could see him being a first rounder, I mean he's got the great size and upside, really athletic, he's basically everything they said about Dion Jordan, but he's more well coached. I think he has a good season, but he doesn't have to blow up to be a first rounder, he just has to have his head on straight and not get injured.
John Fulton - Gonna be a Senior, has a really good chance of being drafted if he's on the outside this year. Not really a taller press corner, but when he plays press he's great at it, and will probably have good measurables. Not sure if he'll be a higher round pick or not, but I think he can get drafted.
HaHa - Could be the first Safety off the board. Not a hybrid, he's a pure FS. Let's see what he does this year, he might have that Junior drop off some of our Safeties have been having, and then come back for a Senior season where he regains his momentum.
I think if DePriest were to leave early (don't think he will) he would be drafted, if he stays though he could be a higher round pick.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:10 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
What safeties had drop off?
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:13 pm to RollTide4Ever
Barron
Lester
Vinnie
If from expectations if nothing else
Lester
Vinnie
If from expectations if nothing else
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:16 pm to RollTide4Ever
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What safeties had drop off?
From their Sophomore to Junior seasons? Barron and Lester both. I don't know if you could say Nick Perry had a drop off, but he didn't play well last season as a Junior.
Vinnie was a Sophomore last season.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 3:42 pm to Wrenchruh
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Even with a medical RS, if Fowler receives a draftable grade, I don't see him returning. His stock won't get any higher with another year. If he can get paid, he should do so.
I agree, I've said similar.
*Age(He's was a little older out of HS, and a Senior season would add another year)
*In line for his degree
*Already suffered a serious injury
*Plays a position that rises because of post season workouts rather than another season
*Carries are at a premium
If Fowler puts a 13-14 game season healthy on tape this year, I consider him a player who could jump to the NFL.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:16 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Adrian Hubbard is not a first round pick. He will be lucky to be a day two pick. Unless he has a 8+ sack season he is a 5-6th round pick.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 5:26 pm to CrimsonFlounder
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Adrian Hubbard is not a first round pick. He will be lucky to be a day two pick. Unless he has a 8+ sack season he is a 5-6th round pick.
You have no idea how the draft works. And
at saying he's "5th-6th round". Maybe if he would have went out this year, but we're talking about next year. The obvious improvement that everyone has in our defense in the second year, the fact that Hubbard has already got early round hype for next year, etc. I'm not saying he's a first round lock at the moment, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if he went in the first, he has first round potential. He had a good first year as a starter, some people here are too quick to pull the trigger on guys like A-Hubb and Belue after one year. From what we saw out of both of them at A-Day, they're getting ready to blow up.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 11:31 pm to CrimsonFlounder
A tall lanky pass rusher like Hubbard will be a higher rd pick at lowest, you just saw 1 with Dion Jordan, Ansah was a ridiculous talent but because of DJ's length and versatility he was not only taken higher, but the Dolphins targeted him and traded up to get him (when Oakland saw their guy, DJ Hayden, was gonna fall to Miami's pick)
Hubbard just needs a marginally good season better than normal and his athleticism, scheme diversity and length propels the rest into the 1st rd, if he could be a productive pass rusher, like more than 5 or 6 sacks this yr, we could be talking about him in a yr as a top 15 pick.
I'll give you another example, on film to me Datone Jones from UCLA was a top 10 pick as a DT in either scheme but because he plays in a 3-4 and because of Sharriff Floyd and Sheldon Richardson are more WOW body types and length and athleticism is there and many scouts view a 3- 4 DL as a space eater but fail to see the versatility in some of those guys with a team that plays a hybrid multiple front. The Packers at 25 (I think or 26) got a steal with him. I thought the Jets might take him at 13 and they didn't. Draft is a weird thing sometimes
Hubbard just needs a marginally good season better than normal and his athleticism, scheme diversity and length propels the rest into the 1st rd, if he could be a productive pass rusher, like more than 5 or 6 sacks this yr, we could be talking about him in a yr as a top 15 pick.
I'll give you another example, on film to me Datone Jones from UCLA was a top 10 pick as a DT in either scheme but because he plays in a 3-4 and because of Sharriff Floyd and Sheldon Richardson are more WOW body types and length and athleticism is there and many scouts view a 3- 4 DL as a space eater but fail to see the versatility in some of those guys with a team that plays a hybrid multiple front. The Packers at 25 (I think or 26) got a steal with him. I thought the Jets might take him at 13 and they didn't. Draft is a weird thing sometimes
Posted on 4/28/13 at 11:39 pm to CrimsonFlounder
He's a 6'6" linebacker. He has potential off the charts. There were some saying he was fringe 1st round this draft. He will likely be mocked in many 1st rounds for next draft.
Posted on 4/28/13 at 11:54 pm to BuccWildBammer
Jets drafted a similar player in Quinton Coples last year, came on strong at the end of the season. He has the ability to play outside in both even and odd fronts. Richardson is strictly an interior player, as the Jets plan to run more 4 man and 1 gap fronts. More 43 reduces the need for an elite passrusher, as it will come from Moose Wilkerson and Richardson inside.
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