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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:06 am to
Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:06 am to
Plus, I fail to see what suggests why the SEC should move out of Birmingham..


This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:08 am
Posted by sorantable
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:07 am to
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Plus, I fail to see what suggest why the SEC should move out of Birmingham..

It shouldn't. He's trolling.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:08 am to
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This is far from the truth.


Well then, I hope you are right. I hope all are correct in continuing to support B-ham as the home of the SEC.

The Decline and Fall of West Birmingham

The following photo, and others (MASH HERE), taken from the recent pictures in Detroit? No .... this is Birmingham, Alabama, home of the vaunted Southeastern Conference.



Read: The Sad, and Unnecessary Decline of the Magic City.

Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:11 am to
Every city has parts like Westend.. Didnt even read the article.. Please tell me why the SEC should move out of Bham...

Better yet maybe a fortune 500 company, Regions, should move out too.. God knows Bham is just a dump..


Thanks for being Captain Obvious on Westend and Ensley!

This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:14 am
Posted by AUCatfish
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:15 am to
So let me get this straight, you are proposing that the SEC offices need to be moved because there is urban blight, poverty and governmental mismanagement in Birmingham/Jefferson County? Could you direct me to a large, former industrial city that doesn't have urban blight, poverty and governmental mismanagement?

Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:17 am to
I think he is just trying to increase web traffic on the links he has posted..

The last link you posted seems to be someone suffering from serious butthurt cause The Barons moved back to Bham..

Citing, no one will go to the games cause they will get robbed or shot.. Then goes on to blame black people for everything.. Pretty racially charged article.. You are doing a terrible job at defending why the SEC should move out of bham
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:24 am
Posted by jackmanusc
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:20 am to
Why do you care so much?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:29 am to
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That is just Bham slander from the article... Who cares about a city attorney being fired.. The article lacks any substantial information about how the City is trending in a different direction... Birmingham isnt Detroit.. As long as UAB and the medical district is in Bham the city will be fine.


May I ask, where the heck do you reside...


Well, the two articles above definitely substantiate how the City is trending downwards - agreed? Two totally different sources with no ulterior motivations as far as I can see.

And is that the same medical district that is still recoiling from the bad financial moves made by the city leadership that invested so heavily in ... what was the name of that big national medical group that B-ham was so heavily invested in a few years ago? The one that cost the city a billion dollars in bond issues and 401Ks?

Is that the same medical community funded by the bankrupt county that was just forced to lay-off a few hundred workers over at Cooper-Greene Mercy Hospital? Are they not now closing the inpatient care facility there as well as part of desperation budget cuts.

Is Birmingham located in the same Jefferson County where B-ham police and Jefferson County sheriffs and highway patrol are finally being told to quite writing tickets for expired tags on vehicles because the city and county is not able to staff enough clerks to get renewed tags out on time to drivers? What's that little mess costing the city and county in screw-up fees? $600k or something like that right? I'll bet it will end-up being more before all is said and done. Wouldn't it have just been easier to pay the $187,000.00 to keep the four employees they laid-off trying to save money who were keeping the renewals flowing and on time?

Wait, did I just hear right? Is B-ham suing Jefferson County and did a Federal Judge just tell B-ham they have no case, that they, B-ham, are part of the problem and trying to slough-it-off on Jefferson County is a cop-out?

That's what I am talking about when I refer to bad leadership. The SEC home offices deserve a better home, a more forward thinking home surrounded by a more representative city and county indicative of the SEC's burgeoning position in the world of college sports. The new TV contract is gonna put a lot of cameras in the offices of the SEC and B-ham is not the jewel of the South by a long shot.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:32 am to
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So let me get this straight, you are proposing that the SEC offices need to be moved because there is urban blight, poverty and governmental mismanagement in Birmingham/Jefferson County? Could you direct me to a large, former industrial city that doesn't have urban blight, poverty and governmental mismanagement?


I agree. So, as I suggested earlier, move out of B-ham and into an area that is not formerly an industrial city full of urban blight, poverty and government mismanagement. I've already suggested the triangle up around Deluth, Athens, Huntsville, but there are many other similar options available.

That whole stretch of road between Huntsville and Nashville is loaded with prime locations.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:32 am to
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Why do you care so much?


Why do you not?
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 10:33 am
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:45 am to
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And is that the same medical district that is still recoiling from the bad financial moves made by the city leadership that invested so heavily in ... what was the name of that big national medical group that B-ham was so heavily invested in a few years ago? The one that cost the city a billion dollars in bond issues and 401Ks?


Your odd little post took a wrong turn there. You really have your "facts" and stories either mixed up or wrong, or both.
Posted by AUCatfish
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:45 am to
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I've already suggested the triangle up around Deluth, Athens, Huntsville, but there are many other similar options available.


You have not given a compelling reason that the SEC and it's offices would benefit from moving out of Birmingham, nor have you given any examples of how the SEC offices are suffering because of their location.
You may have a valid point, however, your position seems to have roots in your personal dislike of the City/County not any concrete reasons that would benefit the SEC.
Posted by MsGarrison
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:52 am to
Again all the stuff you are mentioning a COUNTY PROBLEMS!

Cooper-Green is a county ran hospital not city of bham.

All the stuff you are mentioning still doesnt warrant why the SEC should move.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:56 am to
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That whole stretch of road between Huntsville and Nashville is loaded with prime locations.


Certainly. Pulaski,TN would indeed be a wonderful place. Close to I-65 and I'm sure the Nathan Bedford Forrest statue and birthplace of the KKK would be a real selling point. And, of course, the world famous "Boobie Bungalow" at the exit south would provide some fine entertainment.

Please continue your mantra.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 11:01 am
Posted by AUCatfish
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:04 am to
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"Boobie Bungalow"


Damn, forgot about that place. I have to admit, nothing says family vacation like going to the SEC offices and then hitting the lunch buffet at the Boobie Bungalow with the kids.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:12 am to
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I have to admit, nothing says family vacation like going to the SEC offices and then hitting the lunch buffet at the Boobie Bungalow with the kids.


Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:35 am to
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Your odd little post took a wrong turn there. You really have your "facts" and stories either mixed up or wrong, or both.


So the whole HealthSouth scandal cost the city of B-ham nothing huh? I see. A Wall Street Wonder Takes a Fall
Posted by boddagetta
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:40 am to
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HealthSouth scandal


Scrushy was/is/always will be a scumbag. But now you're just reaching for shite.

Posted by boddagetta
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:42 am to
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Deluth


Where the frick is this exactly?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:42 am to
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You have not given a compelling reason that the SEC and it's offices would benefit from moving out of Birmingham, nor have you given any examples of how the SEC offices are suffering because of their location.

You may have a valid point, however, your position seems to have roots in your personal dislike of the City/County not any concrete reasons that would benefit the SEC.


Full disclosure ... yes, I am angry with them right now, they have cost me a lot of money and they need to pay my Company and me - yet, after this week's proceedings, it appears they are going to find a way out of paying me and many others like me the millions they owe us.

We came there to help them rebuild, they have crapped on a lot of us.

The compelling reason that the offices should move, I've already stated and documented. I'll add the moral and ethical inadequacies when it comes to paying the bills in that county, that motivate my distaste for them at the moment.

Has it hurt the SEC? I dunno, do you? Sure, the SEC has done well, but is that because of B-Ham or because of the member institutions and their dedication to excellence? It seems to me that the member institutions are far more devoted to achieving great things than is the host city of their home offices.

B-ham and Hoover both have dropped the ball. They are not a good venue for the largest preseason college football event in the country annually ... and, matter of fact, many out of town reporters have openly voiced their disdain for having to go to Hoover, for having to go to B-ham. I've heard it said, even seen it written, that the trip is not one they enjoy making or attending.
This post was edited on 2/28/13 at 11:46 am
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