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Haith received his notice of allegations UPDATE

Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:22 pm
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:22 pm
and says there was no unethical conduct charge.

UPDATE
This was taken from PM:

quote:

NOTICE OF ALLEGATIONS to Frank Haith

It is alleged that after June 10, 2010, through the time that his employment ended at the institution in March 2011, Frank Haith (Haith), then head men's basketball coach, failed to promote an atmosphere for compliance within the men's basketball program. Specifically, Haith was aware that Nevin Shapiro (Shapiro), a representative of the institution's athletics interests, threatened that unless Jake Morton (Morton), then assistant men's basketball coach, or Haith provided money to Shapiro, Shapiro would make public a claim that Shapiro provided money to assist in the recruitment of a men's basketball prospective student-athlete. After learning of the threat, Haith failed to alert anyone in the athletics department administration about Shapiro's threat, ask reasonable questions of Morton to ensure that Shapiro's claim lacked merit or disclose the fact that Morton engaged in financial dealings with Shapiro. Rather, Haith gave Morton funds that Morton then provided to Shapiro.




Pic of the letter Deaton received from the NCAA
This post was edited on 2/20/13 at 5:36 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:24 pm to
So wtf were the allegations against him that he got notice of?
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:26 pm to
There was that 10k payment-which, if true, would probably have slammed him with unethical conduct.

There was improper travel payment for a recruit or something like that.

Those are the only two that I can remember.
This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 11:27 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:31 pm to
I think I'm confused. Is this notice of allegations something that has to be responded to? Or is it because there is no unethical conduct we can tell the NCAA to go frick themselves.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111489 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:39 pm to
Frick the NCAA.

And thank the kU grads at the home office for shiteing themselves in a manner that makes Christian Moody blush. They derailed their own pain train.
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 11:42 pm to
I don't understand the process completely, but you get a chance to defend yourself against the allegations. Then the penalties, if any, are handed out sometime after.

This post was edited on 2/19/13 at 11:56 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 8:17 am to
So despite the fact that they found nothing on Haith directly and despite the fact that the NCAA completely shite the bed with their own unethical behavior, are these the type of allegations that Mizzou's hand will be forced and they'll have to fire Haith? Or, because there are no unethical allegations, is this now a situation where the notice he received is a slap on the wrist basically saying hey, we can't prove anything so you're not going to be punished, but watch yourself because there was smoke there?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 8:54 am to
quote:

a situation where the notice he received is a slap on the wrist basically saying hey, we can't prove anything so you're not going to be punished, but watch yourself because there was smoke there?


This.

590 radio was saying this morning that this charge (lack of oversight) is usually applied to institutions, not coaches. And that they couldn't find a ready example of it charged against an individual coach. Not sure if that's true. They said to expect some lost recruiting days and a couple game suspension.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17931 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 10:43 am to
The worst case for Haith is probation. He isn't going to get suspended and maybe he loses a day or two of recruiting.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:09 pm to
Does that mean HAITH loses a couple of days or the staff does? Could Fuller continue on the recruiting trail still? To prevent the staff would be to punish Mizzou, not Haith, because that staff wasn't in Miami.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17931 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:13 pm to
it would just be Haith.
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:19 pm to
Updated info
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 5:32 pm to
What a crock of shite. Now it doesn't even have to do with a $10,000.00 payment to a player. Now the only allegation is that Haith didn't report Shapiro's attempt to extort money from Haith?
Posted by ZouKeeper314
Missouri
Member since Jun 2012
2185 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Now the only allegation is that Haith didn't report Shapiro's attempt to extort money from Haith?


Pretty much the gist of it
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 7:22 pm to
Sounds like extortion to me. Unless that's the $10,000 and Shapiro was demanding it back? What a mess. I have to say though, why pay him unless the payment stuff was true? This is all so shady.
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