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re: Do you consider Arkansas and Missouri rivals?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:27 pm to mograyback
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:27 pm to mograyback
So are you trying to argue CSA soldiers from MO fought brethren in southern territory of Arkansas? Traitors!
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:37 pm to I Ham That I Ham
Hah, I'm not the one that screwed this up in the first place. It was you.. don't flip it on me.
I've said from the beginning it was a divided state. Just injected some truth that the numbers are much closer than they seem bc of the overwhelming amount of foreign born men living in MO that were paid to fight in blue.
I've said from the beginning it was a divided state. Just injected some truth that the numbers are much closer than they seem bc of the overwhelming amount of foreign born men living in MO that were paid to fight in blue.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:39 pm to I Ham That I Ham
Hams sig pic pretty much answers the OPs question.
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:46 pm to mograyback
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This is older than old on this site, but this is the lure I've never been able to not bite.
Don't forget that over 30,000 Union troops that came from St. Louis were foreign born. Thousands of other Union troops throughout Missouri were also foreign born.
And 40k Confederate is a very low ball number, I've seen sites with over 50k reported. Also, Missouri is the state known most for unofficial Confederate participants.
We have a 17 county region that is called Little Dixie, which doesn't count the Ozarks which is more southern than many parts of the real south.
It was a divided state, I know you think its a major jimmy rustling topic but its getting pretty old.. time to just be real about it.
Why would you want to be considered part of the Confederacy? It's not like it's some kind of badgee of honor, unless maybe you're some uneducated idiot on a college football forum
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:49 pm to FiddleHead
you cant be a rival of missouri until they burn your city down
Posted on 2/17/13 at 9:49 pm to FiddleHead
No, not at this point.
When I was in school it was texas, not anymore.
I would have to say Arkansas does not have a rival.
When I was in school it was texas, not anymore.
I would have to say Arkansas does not have a rival.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:06 pm to I Ham That I Ham
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it's so Southern that none of us have ever heard of it
Most people that settle in Missouri came from states like Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana(French settlers). That's why Missouri was divided like it was. Most of it's population came from the south, brought slaves to Missouri. That's why it was a slave state with free states surrounding it.
People in Missouri who supported the south probably had it rougher than any other person that supported the south because of Missouri's location. Union troops surrounded Missouri from the West, North and East. People in the deep south like Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia didn't have that problem.
And if you really want to get technical, Missouri came from the Louisiana Territory. It was called the Missouri territory which made the states of Missouri and Arkansas. Arkansas came out of the Missouri territory when it was divided up into states.
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:18 pm to bayou2003
but "Little Dixie"?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:20 pm to mograyback
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Not saying you should be in step with anything anyone else says..
Just passing on what a fellow ARK fan who lived in Missouri had to say about it..
It's funny that this south/north argument comes strongest from Arky folks. If anything it should come from the deep south, not the mid. There is essentially no difference between the MO Ozarks and the state of Arkansas, same in so many ways, plus its a melting pot of people from both states.
True. I travel all through Arkansas on my way to Louisiana, No matter if it's down US 71, US 425, US 65, etc. I always tell when I'm in the deep south is when I get about 20mi from Little Rock...The accents start changing, demographics start changing, see more Pine Trees, etc. When I go down U.S. 71 it starts changing at around Mena heading to Texarkana...
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:29 pm to I Ham That I Ham
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but "Little Dixie"?
Yeah, it's were the most slave owners in Missouri lived at. Mizzou use to play Dixie up until the 70's. Read about that in a book about Mizzou football history. I don't know any other "yankee' school that played Dixie. Doubt if Iowa, KU, Illinois, Nebraska ever played that at football games. Also believe Mizzou use to have a confederate memorial on campus..
And this out of Springfield,MO...
Missouri State University band was in some controversy over playing "Dixie".
Mo. university chief sorry band played 'Dixie'
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SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) — Missouri State University is apologizing after its band performed "Dixie" at a site where three black men were lynched in 1906.
That takes some balls.
That's why I laugh when people call Missouri a bunch of "yankees".
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:39 pm to bayou2003
No.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:40 pm to bayou2003
Making huge generalization and labels is the root of this forced rivalry. don't bring history and facts that prove our similarities. 
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:46 pm to FiddleHead
From my perspective, no. Not even sure I care about having a rival. I think both schools will benefit in attendance from opposing team fans, since proximity will spark interest.
Mizzou just left behind a border war with kansas that had much to do with history, and college competition was an after thought. If we must have a rival, I suppose Rkansas makes most sense, due to proximity. But at this point, I don't think Mizzou fans want to beat Arky more than anyone else in SEC.
Mizzou just left behind a border war with kansas that had much to do with history, and college competition was an after thought. If we must have a rival, I suppose Rkansas makes most sense, due to proximity. But at this point, I don't think Mizzou fans want to beat Arky more than anyone else in SEC.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:50 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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I don't consider Arkansas or Missouri at all.
ETA: Get out of my head, DWag!
you're like a living, breathing aggie joke.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:51 pm to bayou2003
To be fair, Springfield, MO may be the most lily white town in America. I loathe it and love it for all of the same reasons.
220K pop with the suburbs, 90% white.
220K pop with the suburbs, 90% white.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:53 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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90% white.
I'll take the over.
the most ethnic food there is cashew chicken, which is damn good.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:55 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
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Springfield, MO may be the most lily white town in America
that would be Maumelle, AR.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 10:56 pm to bayou2003
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True. I travel all through Arkansas on my way to Louisiana, No matter if it's down US 71, US 425, US 65, etc. I always tell when I'm in the deep south is when I get about 20mi from Little Rock...The accents start changing, demographics start changing, see more Pine Trees, etc. When I go down U.S. 71 it starts changing at around Mena heading to Texarkana...
ole.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:09 pm to Latarian
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the most ethnic food there is cashew chicken, which is damn good.
Peking House is my vice.
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:12 pm to Latarian
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the most ethnic food there is cashew chicken
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