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darkhorse
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| Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:00 am)
I like Ray. I think he's coaching his butt off! However, I believe he made a horrible mistake that's going to cost MSU..... is costing MSU now.
He cleaned house way to soon. Had he waited, he could have maybe made the NIT in his first year, and recruited the players he wanted. Then he could have cleaned house for his reasons.
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Requiem For A Dawg 
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:13 am to darkhorse)
You can't wait to start enforcing rules a whole year in.
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Eric Nies Grind Time 
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:26 am to darkhorse)
How do you punish Craig Sword for doing something next year that you let Jalen Steele get away with the year before?
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sharpSee 
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:38 am to darkhorse)
Consistency is what earns you respect.
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Jma313 
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:40 am to sharpSee)
Whatever the kid did he probably deserved it. Can't cut corners. That's what stansbury did and look where that got him
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ChargerDog91
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:49 am to darkhorse)
Zeidaks and Smith had the 3rd strike just while Ray was his for a huge school violation. Ray's hand was forced and there was nothing he could do otherwise.
I'm not sure what happened with Jalen tho. I haven't seen any of the players.
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17theBears
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:20 pm to darkhorse)
At this point, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain in enforcing his policies in an effort to gain the respect of the players. If he wouldn't have suspended Jalen, we could've lost by only 20; however, he enforced his policy and suspended Jalen and lost by 25.
If he chooses to suspend 1-2 players the rest of the season, we won't win another game. If he chooses to let 1-2 players slide for conducting themselves in a way that severely detriments the program, we still don't win another game.
IMO, it will pay dividends in the future, and the future is all that matters at this point.
As far as the two kicked off the team, as ChargerDog pointed out, that wasn't solely his decision.
This post was edited on 2/11 at 12:22 pm
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darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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Yes you can.. There was a way that he could have done it. It would have made a bigger impact too.
He could have set the rules and stated at the end of the year, I will evaluate where you stand with this team. This is the line and if you cross it, you will be done.
Recruited his type of players and at the end of the season, cleaned house.
MSU would not be in the position they are in now, and his rules would have been placed into effect.
He made a mistake in what he is did, and it's going to be hard to get MSU out of it. Can he do it? who knows. time will tell. But he made a mistake.
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darkhorse
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How do you punish Craig Sword for doing something next year that you let Jalen Steele get away with the year before?
Where did I say that? Where did I say he was wrong for suspending Steele? This isn't about Steele. This is about MSU basketball and the whole we are in.
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17theBears
Mississippi St. Fan
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:02 pm to darkhorse)
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This is about MSU basketball and the whole we are in.
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darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:05 pm to 17theBears)
Play on words. :)
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Hardy_Har
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Member since Nov 2012
2321 posts
| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:05 pm to 17theBears)
Did he just paraphrase or stick his dick in a spelling book?? I can't tell.
Well played, Sir DH 
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Tds & Beer
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:16 pm to darkhorse)
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Just one complaint
Complaint denied. Try again next year.
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ChargerDog91
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Member since May 2012
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:32 pm to darkhorse)
So basically do what has fricked us over for the past 5 years? 
I'll give it to you DH you certainly believe you're always right.
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Allyn McKeen
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Member since Jun 2012
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:24 pm to darkhorse)
Cleaning house was OK. It is the injuries and cleaning house that has us playing with the really short bench.
The players that were disciplined did this to themselves. I know it. You know it. They know it.
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Al Bundy Bulldog
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 3:49 pm to Allyn McKeen)
What I don't get is how does your team captain and a guy many thought was a good character kid and who is a jr. Team captain get suspended????
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sharpSee
Southern Cal Fan
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What I don't get is how does your team captain and a guy many thought was a good character kid and who is a jr. Team captain get suspended????
If you would have added one more question mark, Rick Ray would have come on this board and answered. Maybe next time.
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Tds & Beer
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What I don't get is how does your team captain and a guy many thought was a good character kid and who is a jr. Team captain get suspended?
He's a dumb kid, just like you were. Next question.
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Al Bundy Bulldog
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| re: Just one complaint (Posted on 2/11/13 at 5:01 pm to Tds & Beer)
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He's a dumb kid, just like you were. Next question.
When does his suspension end?
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ChargerDog91
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Is it not possible he could've just fricked up?
Are you trying to speculate that Ray suspended him just to suspend him?
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