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Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:41 pm
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:41 pm
I was listening to the afternoon Jox show today and they were talking about some loophole where teams that had in-state lotteries could use those lottery scholarships as a way to add more baseball players than is technically allowed under NCAA guidelines. Seems weird, because you can't do that in football. Anyone know anything about this?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44318 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 11:48 pm to
It isn't really a loophole. The guys who qualify for the lottery scholarships have to qualify for them legitimately. It's an academic scholarship that just covers tuition. They have to pay for their own room and board, food, books, etc. The athletic scholarships can then be spread out a little less thinly.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:22 am to
Yea, each school only has like 13.5 baseball scholarships (or something like that) a year to give out. All the schools with in-state lotteries can use those scholarships as "academic" scholarships to give to in-state players and don't have to use any of the baseball scholarship allotment on them.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50223 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:54 am to
On the surface it looks like a loophole, but I don't consider it one. You can't stop a student who qualifies for a lottery scholarship from "walking on" to a baseball team. If you did that, you'd have to stop any students with scholarships of any kind other than sports scholarships from walking onto a sports team.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:51 am to
It's not a loophole at all but it is a huge advantage for those states that have lotteries
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 11:44 am to
quote:

On the surface it looks like a loophole, but I don't consider it one. You can't stop a student who qualifies for a lottery scholarship from "walking on" to a baseball team. If you did that, you'd have to stop any students with scholarships of any kind other than sports scholarships from walking onto a sports team.


But in football, if you are ever recruited by the school and then you take the "academic" scholarship, not the athletic one,.........you still count against the athletic scholarship total of 85.

This is different because the recruited walk ons don't count against the total 12.5 scholarships available. It's not fair at all to Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Miss St.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50223 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

But in football, if you are ever recruited by the school and then you take the "academic" scholarship, not the athletic one,.........you still count against the athletic scholarship total of 85.


I think a player only counts as "recruited" if they have an official visit to the school, or an official off-campus visit from the coach. That means you can call them as much as you want, and they can visit the school unofficially and even meet with the coaches on-campus on an unofficial visit, but still be considered not "recruited" as it relates to the NCAA.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 5:43 pm to
11.7
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
4771 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 11:01 pm to
I don't know, it seems like a loophole because it doesn't work the same way in football. If you could do that in football, Alabama would have a lottery tomorrow.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 11:31 pm to
It doesn't matter whether or not it's technically a 'loophole,' what matters is it's a huge disadvantage to teams like us without the lottery.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62697 posts
Posted on 2/9/13 at 12:02 am to
everyone knows it is a disadvantage to the four Alabama and Mississippi schools.
Just look at the recent records. I don't think it is just a coincidence that these four schools have tapered off in baseball where once the four schools ranked well within the conference.
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