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re: How did your SEC school get their name?
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:28 am to Latarian
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:28 am to Latarian
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It was during his recounting of the 16-0 win over LSU that Coach Bezdek was to have said that the team played: "like a wild band of Razorback hogs."
I did not know this. Pretty cool.
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:36 am to Wendell T. Stamps
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I'm sure this has been discussed countless times, but here goes:
Tigers - from an Oliver Goldsmith poem called "The Deserted Village" that the city name also comes from. Tigers comes from the line "Where crouching tigers wait their hapless prey"
Plainsmen - from the same poem, from the opening line "Sweet Auburn, loveliest village of the plain". People from the "loveliest village of the plain" are the "plainsmen".
And why "The Deserted Village"?
Because Judge John J. Harper, the founder of the city of Auburn in 1836, had a daughter that enjoyed the writings of Oliver Goldsmith who is the poet who wrote "The Deserted Village". Interesting that "Auburn", "Tigers", and "Plainsmen" all stem from that one poem.
Oh, and Auburn's colors are orange and blue because the Father of Auburn Football, Dr. George Petrie, was a graduate of the University of Virginia. He continued what he was familiar with. Dr. Petrie was the first native Alabamian to earn a PhD degree.
When John Heisman left Auburn in 1900 to take the job at Clemson, he borrowed the Auburn orange and blue to take along with him.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:37 am to Timber Dawg
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But on Nov. 3, 1920, Morgan Blake of the ATLANTA JOURNAL wrote about school nicknames and said "The Georgia Bulldogs" would sound good because there is a certain dignity about a bulldog, as well as ferocity." After a 0-0 tie with Virginia in Charlottesville on Nov. 6, 1920, ATLANTA CONSTITUTION writer Cliff Wheatley used the name "Bulldogs" in his story five times. The name has been used ever since.
Wow... UGA wasn't the Bulldogs until the 1920's?
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:39 am to Ole Colonel 27
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I believe LSU's "fighting tigers" and auburn's "war eagle" were the names of the confederate troops from those areas of their respectable states.
Not accurate about "war eagle".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_eagle
Posted on 2/8/13 at 11:22 am to GumboPot
The Black Bear is a reference to Old Ben from Faulkner's, "Go Down, Moses." Unfortunately, the university has done a terrible job of explaining this to anyone who hasn't really dug for it or doesn't know someone who was on the mascot committee. If you read the book, it really is just the perfect mascot for us.
The Old Ben character is symbolic of everything we're pushing as our modern conception of what it is to be a Rebel. It's the idea of rebelling against the status quo to make the world better. Old Ben, partly through his connection with Isaac, was a symbol of the rebellion of the human spirit against human nature (a notion exemplified in Faulkner's Nobel acceptance speech).
And while we're at it, don't believe the bullshite lie about why we're called Ole Miss that is perpetuated by dumbass State fans and, unfortunately, a few of our own. The only "reputable" source anyone ever has is David Sansing's book, but he throws it out with zero justification or citation. It's an urban myth that he bought into. The truth is that at the time we first became known as "Ole Miss," LSU was known as "Old Lou," which a google search will quickly confirm: LINK . There's also a Missouri cheer in which they refer to "Ole Mizzou," and southern cal's fight song includes the line "fight on for Ol' SC." "Ole Miss" is very obviously in the same vein as these terms of endearment for other universities that popped up at the same time, even taking the exact same construction as "Old Lou." "Ole Miss" survived as a nickname and the others didn't. If LSU were still known as "Old Lou," would anyone ever have thought twice about the origins of "Ole Miss" and made up the ridiculous story about slaves? It seems doubtful. The theory that Ole Miss is simply the result of a formerly popular construction for a term of endearment seems just a wee bit more plausible than the idea that at some point we randomly decided to name our yearbook after a slave owner's wife.
The Old Ben character is symbolic of everything we're pushing as our modern conception of what it is to be a Rebel. It's the idea of rebelling against the status quo to make the world better. Old Ben, partly through his connection with Isaac, was a symbol of the rebellion of the human spirit against human nature (a notion exemplified in Faulkner's Nobel acceptance speech).
And while we're at it, don't believe the bullshite lie about why we're called Ole Miss that is perpetuated by dumbass State fans and, unfortunately, a few of our own. The only "reputable" source anyone ever has is David Sansing's book, but he throws it out with zero justification or citation. It's an urban myth that he bought into. The truth is that at the time we first became known as "Ole Miss," LSU was known as "Old Lou," which a google search will quickly confirm: LINK . There's also a Missouri cheer in which they refer to "Ole Mizzou," and southern cal's fight song includes the line "fight on for Ol' SC." "Ole Miss" is very obviously in the same vein as these terms of endearment for other universities that popped up at the same time, even taking the exact same construction as "Old Lou." "Ole Miss" survived as a nickname and the others didn't. If LSU were still known as "Old Lou," would anyone ever have thought twice about the origins of "Ole Miss" and made up the ridiculous story about slaves? It seems doubtful. The theory that Ole Miss is simply the result of a formerly popular construction for a term of endearment seems just a wee bit more plausible than the idea that at some point we randomly decided to name our yearbook after a slave owner's wife.
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 11:24 am
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:55 pm to GumboPot
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So Fort Sumter was named after Thomas Sumter, the Carolina Gamecock?
Yessir ... Thomas Sumter (see, Mel Gibson's The Patriot), was nicknamed "The Fighting Gamecock" during the revolutionary war because he never gave up, he just kept on fighting always. And yes, Fort Sumter in Charleston was also named after Tho. Sumter ... The Fighting Gamecock.
This is on display at the school:
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:02 pm to scrooster
For Mizzou......
The Tigers:
The local militia that protected the town of Columbia during the civil war was calld the Tigers. They protected the town from both northern and southern forces in order to keep the war out of the town.
The name Mizzou:
Missouri is both a land grand and research institution in one school. As most of you know, the land grant schools are normally called "state." The University of Missouri was known as both the University of Missouri and Missouri State University. In the early 1900s, most people refered to it as MSU and the pronounciation of this acronym became pronounced Mizzou.
The Tigers:
The local militia that protected the town of Columbia during the civil war was calld the Tigers. They protected the town from both northern and southern forces in order to keep the war out of the town.
The name Mizzou:
Missouri is both a land grand and research institution in one school. As most of you know, the land grant schools are normally called "state." The University of Missouri was known as both the University of Missouri and Missouri State University. In the early 1900s, most people refered to it as MSU and the pronounciation of this acronym became pronounced Mizzou.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:10 pm to notsince98
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The name Mizzou:
Missouri is both a land grand and research institution in one school. As most of you know, the land grant schools are normally called "state." The University of Missouri was known as both the University of Missouri and Missouri State University. In the early 1900s, most people refered to it as MSU and the pronounciation of this acronym became pronounced Mizzou.
So, in other words, Mississippi State and Michigan State could also be referred to as "Mizzou?"
lulz
Try again.
https://www.missouri.edu/about/whatismizzou.php
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What is "Mizzou?"
Mizzou is the University’s nickname and is pronounced muh-ZOO. The word Mizzou is an example of clipping. That means that a longer word, Missouri, got shortened (or clipped) to Mizzou, which is similar but shorter. No one is sure who first used the word Mizzou, but it was used in the Missouri Alumni Quarterly as early as December 1905.
The University uses the word Mizzou often. A number of print and online publications incorporate the affectionate nickname including our alumni magazine called MIZZOU, our monthly e-newsletter @Mizzou, the faculty and staff newspaper Mizzou Weekly, and our junior high science magazine called Mizzou Magic. It also has a number of fun uses such as a cheer at football and basketball games in which people on one side of the stadium shout M-I-Z, and the other side replies Z-O-U.
The nickname, regardless of its origin, is as much a part of campus tradition as Homecoming and the Columns. After all, there’s only one Mizzou!
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:12 pm to GumboPot
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Were did the elephant come from?
Africa
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:13 pm to scrooster
You might try reading that carefully. The end makes it quite clear that isn't 100% certain and makes no claims to the "origin." It only says what the word Mizzou is.
I'm taking my info from the history professors at Mizzou. They had no input on the website and don't agree with it.
I'm taking my info from the history professors at Mizzou. They had no input on the website and don't agree with it.
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:34 pm to notsince98
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You might try reading that carefully. The end makes it quite clear that isn't 100% certain and makes no claims to the "origin." It only says what the word Mizzou is.
I'm taking my info from the history professors at Mizzou. They had no input on the website and don't agree with it.
Not busting your balls here but, forgive me in advance, I'm a simple black and white common sense guy.
Mizzou comes from Missou ... plain and simple. Please, don't go around telling people that story you posted above and yes, I know there are other similar accounts out there claiming that MSU stuff ... but don't look dumb like those people that wrote that. Mizzou was born from Missou and is pronounced the same. Just go with that and you'll appear wise and credible.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:34 pm to GoldenFlakes
That's true. That Methodist minister was my great great X X ? uncle, William McKendree. First American born bishop of the Methodist church.
He is now buried on the grounds of Vanderbilt University.
He is now buried on the grounds of Vanderbilt University.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:42 pm to Grizzly
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Grizzly
How did your SEC school get their name?
An Eagle dropped shite on the head of a plainsman and a Tiger jumped his arse and ate him. So we are the Tigers and chant War Eagle as our war cry.
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 1:51 pm to beatbammer
I've been told that all my life and I'm old.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 2:16 pm to Themole
'Rebels' is in honor of a band of Ugandan guerrilla fighters who tried to overthrow a corrupt government.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 2:45 pm to EC Reb
I'm so glad our mascot isn't tigers or bulldogs. They have to be the most overused, cliche, POS mascots ever.
Posted on 2/8/13 at 3:25 pm to GumboPot
I feel like a better name for this thread would be: "I don't know how to use Google"
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 2/8/13 at 5:38 pm to Lordofwrath88
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I feel like a better name for this thread would be: "I don't know how to use Google"
Posted on 2/8/13 at 8:41 pm to BigOrangeBri
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I'm so glad our mascot isn't tigers or bulldogs. They have to be the most overused, cliche, POS mascots ever.
Thug POS
Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:14 pm to GumboPot
Just about every school in the the SEC got their name from a war.
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