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Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:12 am to m2pro
Yes. Citation: LSU.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 6:53 am to m2pro
Even if the answer is once again no like after the Bearbid love to have that problem even once much less twice
Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:27 am to The White Lobster
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The only thing Perkins did was beat Auburn. That was the problem
Yeah, he won 2 and lost 2. Which was a gd miracle when he should have been 0-4. Still pisses me off Dye let that loser win twice. Dye even said the '84 IB was the worst coaching job of his 35 year career as an assistant or HC. Total joke AU let bama win that game after kicking their arse up and down the field.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 7:53 am to m2pro
The only time I've ever really seen a smooth transition was Howard Schnellenberger to Jimmy Johnson at Miami.
Had Johnson stayed at Miami, there's no telling how many national championships he would've won. Saban has actually surpassed Johnson as a college coach, and that's no small feat. In fact, Saban is the best coach since JJ.
I just don't see that train stopping until Saban has a heart attack or something. Alabama will probably move into having the greatest dynasty in college football history. Greater than OU in the 70's and 80's. Miami in the 80's and 90's. Notre Dame. You name it.
Saban is marching towards being the greatest coach in history. I personally think he's got OCD and is batshit crazy, but that only feeds into his perfectionist mindset and will to win.
It will not be easy to replace Saban. No way, no how. You might get a Miles scenario at LSU or a Erickson scenario at Miami. But they'll be a pale reflection of just how good Saban is. And they won't be able to sustain the success.
Had Johnson stayed at Miami, there's no telling how many national championships he would've won. Saban has actually surpassed Johnson as a college coach, and that's no small feat. In fact, Saban is the best coach since JJ.
I just don't see that train stopping until Saban has a heart attack or something. Alabama will probably move into having the greatest dynasty in college football history. Greater than OU in the 70's and 80's. Miami in the 80's and 90's. Notre Dame. You name it.
Saban is marching towards being the greatest coach in history. I personally think he's got OCD and is batshit crazy, but that only feeds into his perfectionist mindset and will to win.
It will not be easy to replace Saban. No way, no how. You might get a Miles scenario at LSU or a Erickson scenario at Miami. But they'll be a pale reflection of just how good Saban is. And they won't be able to sustain the success.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 8:47 am to CrimsonFever
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Stop worrying about when Saban leaves bro, it'll be a while.Enjoy the ride.
I couldn't be enjoying these day more than i am already... Trust me. I'm not worried about it one bit. I thought of a relevant question I wanted the answer to.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 8:56 am to BamaScoop
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Miles has been running on Saban fumes for almost a decade.
You've been running without a brain in your head for longer than that.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 9:25 am to m2pro
Saban will leave huge shoes to fill, but hopefully the lesson we've learned is that we will never win simply because "We're Alabama." That's a retarded way of thinking and that was the mentality we had for 25 years.
However, being the head coach at Alabama isn't easy. You have to be able to deal with more day-to-day BS than practically any other college job. Only certain type of people can handle that and its going to take a coach who has the political capital who can tell boosters and such to screw off...which is basically what Saban did when he got here. He's done an excellent job of getting rid of the hangers on and boosters who ran the program before. My fear is that once he leaves, they'll see it as an opportunity to lurch back in.
However, being the head coach at Alabama isn't easy. You have to be able to deal with more day-to-day BS than practically any other college job. Only certain type of people can handle that and its going to take a coach who has the political capital who can tell boosters and such to screw off...which is basically what Saban did when he got here. He's done an excellent job of getting rid of the hangers on and boosters who ran the program before. My fear is that once he leaves, they'll see it as an opportunity to lurch back in.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 9:59 am to FairhopeTider
yeah, i like that answer too. 'we're alabama' means nothing to an opponent across the field when a new coach is at the helm. in all reality, the fact that it's Alabama only means something to teams like LaMo so that when they beat us on a shitty year they have accomplished something. (and in all fairness, with our resources, they have accomplished something)
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:24 am to m2pro
The "We're Alabama" thing is pretty the mentality that we won before, therefore we'll win again...which isn't true. That is exactly what Saban preaches against.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:28 am to m2pro
things don't happen that way; the outgoing coach tries to pick his successor. saban did that at LSU. he will most definately do it at bama. will the pick work out? usually they don't. les miles will eventually become the most winning coach at LSU and there is still a vocal segment of fans that hated him from day one and still do. since nicky has 3 nc's at bama, you will probably get a ray perkins and even if he's good, it won't be good enough.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:28 am to FairhopeTider
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The "We're Alabama" thing is pretty the mentality that we won before, therefore we'll win again...which isn't true. That is exactly what Saban preaches against.
it's a double edged sword/blade or whatever the saying is... it's also the mentality that makes us settle for NOTHING but the best. and i do believe the culture here is absolutely win everything or f'k it. i think that culture is what made us land saban (somewhat)... and i KNOW that culture made his job SO much easier.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:37 am to FlukerFlakes
good pass it to sabans son so we can watch ttown burn 
Posted on 2/2/13 at 10:38 am to m2pro
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it's a double edged sword/blade or whatever the saying is... it's also the mentality that makes us settle for NOTHING but the best. and i do believe the culture here is absolutely win everything or f'k it. i think that culture is what made us land saban (somewhat)... and i KNOW that culture made his job SO much easier
I agree completely.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:33 am to m2pro
I believe that saban's success will also be the downfall of the program. Not while he is here, I don't see ya'll ever losing more than 3 games in a season as long as he is there. I just believe once he leaves, your fanbase will be so accustomed to being in the hunt every year that 2-3 early losses will derail the morale of the fans and then the team. The first coach ya'll hire after him has no shot only from the obsurdly high expectations that saban established by winning. It will be interesting to see to say the least.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:41 am to jdaute2
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I believe that saban's success will also be the downfall of the program
We had success before Saban, we'll have it after Saban. Either Saban has shaken us out of the mentality we had post-Bryant or we'll just repeat the same mistakes until we get our next great coach.
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Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:42 am to jdaute2
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I believe that saban's success will also be the downfall of the program. Not while he is here, I don't see ya'll ever losing more than 3 games in a season as long as he is there. I just believe once he leaves, your fanbase will be so accustomed to being in the hunt every year that 2-3 early losses will derail the morale of the fans and then the team. The first coach ya'll hire after him has no shot only from the obsurdly high expectations that saban established by winning. It will be interesting to see to say the least.
so we should hope to not be really good now, so we can be happy 10 years from now for losing 3 games...
Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:43 am to m2pro
You have Kirby, the dynasty continues /thread
Posted on 2/2/13 at 11:46 am to m2pro
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I'd say the topic answers it all. I'd say we had a hard time accepting ANY measure of normalcy when the Bear retired. I think this started from the top of our admin all the way to the fan.
I doubt it. The next few coaches at Bama will be compared to Saban at every turn. What Saban has done at Bama is unprecedented, in this day and age of CFB parity.
Posted on 2/2/13 at 1:47 pm to PepaSpray
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Yes. Citation: LSU.
Bama might not get a great recruiter like Les.
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