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Recruiting rankings vs AP rankings 4 years later 2006-2009 thru 2009-2012

Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:58 pm
Posted by BamaGround
Member since Dec 2010
551 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 2:58 pm
There's a lot to consider here that doesn't translate to paper (injuries, coaching changes, juco transfers, early declaration for draft, etc) but thought it was interesting to take a site like Rivals and see where the recruiting class was ranked and where they finished in the AP 4 years later. Based off how the 2008-2011 and 2009-2012 years turned out I'm looking forward to the next 3 years.


Rivals recruiting ranking vs final Ap ranking 4 years later

2006 Recruiting vs 2009 final AP

1) USC------------1) Alabama
2) Florida--------2) Texas
3) Fl. State-------3) Florida
4) Georgia--------4) Boise State
5) Texas---------- 5) Ohio State
6) Penn State----6) TCU
7) LSU-------------7) Iowa
8) Notre Dame----8) Cincinnati
9) Oklahoma-------9) Penn State
10) Auburn----------10) Va. Tech

2007 Recruiting vs 2010 final AP

1) USC---------------1) Auburn
2) Florida-----------2) TCU
3) Texas-------------3) Oregon
4) Auburn-----------4) Stanford
5) Alabama----------5) Ohio State
6) LSU-----------------6) Oklahoma
7) Oklahoma --------7) Wisconsin
8) UCLA----------------8) LSU
9) Tennessee---------9) Boise St
10) Fl. State------------10) Alabama

2008 Recruiting vs 2011 Final AP

1) Alabama-------------1) Alabama
2) Notre Dame---------2)LSU
3) Florida----------------3) Oklahoma State
4) Ohio State------------4) Oregon
5) Miami-----------------5) Arkansas
6) Oklahoma------------6) USC
7) Georgia ---------------7) Stanford
8) USC--------------------8) Boise State
9) Fl. State---------------9) South Carolina
10) Michigan-------------10) Wisconsin


2009 recruiting vs 2012 final AP
1) Alabama -------1) Alabama
2) LSU--------------2) Oregon
3) Ohio State------3) Ohio State
4) USC---------------4)Notre Dame
5) Texas-------------5) Georgia
6) Georgia----------6)Texas A&M
7) Fl. State----------7)Stanford
8) Michigan---------8) S. Carolina
9) N. Carolina-------9) Florida
10) Tennessee-------10) Fl. State

2010 recruiting

1) USC
2) Florida
3) Texas
4) Auburn
5) Alabama
6) LSU
7) Oklahoma
8) UCLA
9) Tennessee
10) FL. State

2011 recruiting

1) Alabama
2) Florida St
3) Texas
4) USC
5) Georgia
6) LSU
7) Auburn
8) Clemson
9) Oregon
10) Notre Dame

2012 recruiting

1) Alabama
2) Texas
3) Florida
4) Ohio State
5) Stanford
6) Florida State
7) Michigan
8) USC
9) Miami
10) Auburn
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
2552 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:04 pm to
Great thread and info. Curious what the next few years will reveal.
Posted by FlukerFlakes
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

Great thread and info. Curious what the next few years will reveal


3 more NCs for Bama.

back to back to back to back to back to back NCs
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

2007 Recruiting vs 2010 final AP

1) USC---------------1) Auburn
2) Florida-----------2) TCU
3) Texas-------------3) Oregon
4) Auburn-----------4) Stanford
5) Alabama----------5) Ohio State
6) LSU-----------------6) Oklahoma
7) Oklahoma --------7) Wisconsin
8) UCLA----------------8) LSU
9) Tennessee---------9) Boise St
10) Fl. State------------10) Alabama

Does this prove that Chizik really did win with Tuberville's recruits?
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:11 pm to
Right on, two top 10 AP finishes without being in the top 10 for recruiting. Go Gamecocks!
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Recruiting rankings vs AP rankings 4 years later 2006-2009 thru 2009-2012


What I get from this: Recruiting Rankings are relatively accurate, but not an exact science. Top 10 recruiting classes are all pretty much equivalent.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:32 pm to
Ehhh. If you can't develop those players then it doesn't matter what you're rank is. I think that is the way you should look at that list.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3154 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 3:44 pm to
Schedule strength has almost as much to do with Final AP Rankings as Recruiting Rankings do. Yes, there are teams that end up in the Final AP Top Ten with low recruiting rankings, but when you look at their schedule it is full of teams with even lower recruiting rankings than theirs. Take Boise State, for example, the overwhelming majority of teams they play have lower ranked classes than they do. So, basically, they are simply beating up less talented teams than theirs, but spring an upset and get ranked high.

Here's a few Facts:

No team has won a BCS National Championship without at least 2 Top Ten Recruiting classes in the 5 years leading up to their National Championship.

Alabama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, and Auburn Recruit the best in the SEC, Year in and Year out since 2000. Those 5 schools are the only schools to win the SEC Championship since 2000.

Alabama has had the #1 Recruiting Class in the Nation 4 of the last 5 Years. Alabama has won the National Championship 3 out of the last 4 years.

You must recruit the best in order to be the best.
Posted by OSqueal
Where ever the beer is
Member since Jan 2011
5386 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 4:20 pm to
I have heard on a sports talk show that about only half of the schools with top 25 recruiting rankings end up in the top 25 football rankings. Don't know if true. Just what I heard.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25239 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:26 pm to
tOSU, doing more with less according to these numbers.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Does this prove that Chizik really did win with Tuberville's recruits?


Chizik won with Newton and Fairley. Thought that was pretty obvious.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:38 pm to
quote:

tOSU, doing more with less according to these numbers.


Georgia doing less with more as usual.
Posted by General13
Mobile
Member since Dec 2008
1363 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

Chizik won with Newton and Fairley. Thought that was pretty obvious.
i believe Fairley was originally signed by Tubbs then resigned with Chiz out of Juco
Posted by Arch2012
CS
Member since Jan 2012
71 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

2009 recruiting vs 2012 final AP
1) Alabama -------1) Alabama
2) LSU--------------2) Oregon
3) Ohio State------3) Ohio State
4) USC---------------4)Notre Dame
5) Texas-------------5) Georgia
6) Georgia----------6)Texas A&M
7) Fl. State----------7)Stanford
8) Michigan---------8) S. Carolina
9) N. Carolina-------9) Florida
10) Tennessee-------10) Fl. State


hey asshat A&M did not finish 6th
Posted by undecided
Member since May 2012
15492 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

i believe Fairley was originally signed by Tubbs then resigned with Chiz out of Juco

You are correct. Tubbs was the sign & place king
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7797 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Schedule strength has almost as much to do with Final AP Rankings as Recruiting Rankings do. Yes, there are teams that end up in the Final AP Top Ten with low recruiting rankings, but when you look at their schedule it is full of teams with even lower recruiting rankings than theirs.


It's a good point. It would be interesting to see how some "overachievers" fare in a study based on their performance not in AP Polls but in wins and winning % against teams with equal or better recruiting rankings.

Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Does this prove that Chizik really did win with Tuberville's recruits?



All of the o-linemen on the 2010 Auburn team were recruited by Tuberville and their o-line played a huge role in Auburn winning a national championship that year so the answer has to be yes.
Posted by BamaGround
Member since Dec 2010
551 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 9:54 pm to
Thanks for your indepth intelligent analysis.

Google the rankings moron. Espn has the AP rankings on their website also. Georgia listed as 5 and A&M as 5 but in the order listed they are behind Georgia. Congrats on tying for #5. No one cares.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 10:07 pm to
What kind of Rivals recruiting listings are you going by? Rivals shows their 2007 final rankings as:

1) UF
2) SoCal
3) Tennessee
4) LSU
5) Texas
6) USC
7) AU
8) ND
9) UGA
10) UA
Posted by Arch2012
CS
Member since Jan 2012
71 posts
Posted on 1/25/13 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Thanks for your indepth intelligent analysis.

Google the rankings moron. Espn has the AP rankings on their website also. Georgia listed as 5 and A&M as 5 but in the order listed they are behind Georgia. Congrats on tying for #5. No one cares.

so you agree you're wrong but you want me to google the rankings? you start a thread about rankings but you don't care where teams are ranked?

are all gumps this stupid or are you just butthurt?
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