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re: The beginning of the end of the NCAA in football has begun....

Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:47 pm to
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 8:47 pm to
I wouldn't mind UNC, but Duke fans & students are a little bit weird.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 9:04 pm to



On the flip side, I'm sure the Duke basketball program is salivating at the thought of adding Alabama and LSU every year.



Well if tonight's games don't seal the deal for them they are never coming :lol:
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 9:59 pm to
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I am sure that Mark Womack will ensure that Alabama plays duke or nc state while LSU will play NC state or VA Tech.
only fair ... the programs yearning for national respect have to earn their way into conversation!

Don't yearn .... earn ....


Last 14 games: Tide 5 LSU 9
Nice try though.
Posted by Razorologist
Member since Aug 2011
1538 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:10 pm to
They are gonna look back on this superconference shite in 10 years and think wtf did we do that? fricking money whores are ruining the world.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:25 pm to
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Would the hardcore left wing PAC 12 consider adding the USAFA?


What is this?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:29 pm to
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They are gonna look back on this superconference shite in 10 years and think wtf did we do that?


Depends on how it shakes out

The Big 10 and SEC stand poised to reap enormous benefits. The PAC has no credible option for expanding. The Big 12 has bad options to expand but might be able to make it happen (FSU, USC, Louisville, Ga Tech, and a North Carolina school might be an option)

I like the idea of the SEC adding NC and Duke in the sense that they would arguably make the SEC the #1 basketball conference as well as the #1 baseball and #1 football conference in the country.

But...
1) it is harder to see how the SEC should best balance a four pod system in a football sense if they added NC and Duke.
2) adding two schools from one state doesn't maximize cable money like adding a single school from NC and a single school from Va would.

I have to think what the SEC would most prefer would be adding North Carolina and Va Tech - to get this they will just have wait for the ACC to collapse (with Maryland and Virginia leaving this could happen really fast). NC could easily decide instead to go to the Big 10 with Duke if the Big 10 extends an invite to both schools - but I'm not sure the Big 10 will invite Duke and NC would be a bit insecure about the SEC inviting NC State (the Texas/A&M example may show them that this will greatly enhance the prestige of NC State and make NC State the #1 football program in the state and perhaps eventually the #1 athletic program in teh state)
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:50 pm to
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And beginning of the super conference system


LINK
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:51 pm to
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I just want a school that's great at something. NC State and Missouri are both average at just about everything


FIFY
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2402 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:53 pm to
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Bye bye ACC, nobody will miss you.

Virgina and Georgia Tech to the Big 10

Virgina Tech and NC St. to the SEC

FSU, Miami, Clemson, NC, Duke and Louisville to the Big 12.

Boston College, Wake Forest, Pitt and Syracuse to the Big East.


You left out Notre Dame. Perhaps they can keep an "invisible" membership in the ACC.

Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:54 pm to
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Big Ten won't take anyone from the ACC that isn't an AAU school:

This means

Maryland (already confirmed)
Virginia
Duke
UNC


The Big 10 isn't getting UNC or Duke without getting both. I see them sticking with 15 schools until they can convince Notre Dame to be #16.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 10:59 pm to
i hope the big conferences fail so bad
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:03 pm to
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The Big 10 isn't getting UNC or Duke without getting both. I see them sticking with 15 schools until they can convince Notre Dame to be #16.


You have to think adding Notre Dame finally seems like a possibility - the question is whether the politics could work (there are some issues on things like stem cell research which are actually crucial things to come to an agreement on for ND to enter the Big 10)

But if Virginia and Notre Dame made 16 they could sit tight with that number or even expand to 20 (Virginia, Notre Dame, NC, Duke, Ga Tech, Kansas seem like schools that might be added to me)
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:07 pm to
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i hope the big conferences fail so bad


I definitely hope the Big 10 fails at least. I can understand the reasons for the SEC adding Texas A&M and the Pac-12 inviting Utah and Colorado. The Big 10 is bringing in these schools just based on sheer greed. When has Maryland and Rutgers ever been relevant in football? When has Rutgers ever been relevant in anything? Those schools bring nothing to the table except for their TV markets. They don't improve the Big 10 athletically at all.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
10980 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:10 pm to
Well the "gump pod" would most assuredly consist of AUB,TN and either Duke,KY,Vandy or Mizzou
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58107 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:18 am to
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Well the "gump pod" would most assuredly consist of AUB,TN and either Duke,KY,Vandy or Mizzou


You say this like we will be bad forever
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:21 am to
i want to go back to 10 and 12 team conferences. the pac 10 adding 2 teams didn't bother me. Us adding 2 teams bothered me
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36105 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 1:26 am to
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You say this like we will be bad forever



FWIW I enjoyed you writing this in light of your user name
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58035 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:22 am to
The Pac 12 would probably be willing to look at UNLV, SMU and Houston to start. They were willing to take Tech and Baylor so if they want to expand in Texas thats all there really is left. UNLV has a big enough athletic budget to justify being Pac 12 and isn't any worse than the Arizona schools. While some might complain, if they want to expand UNLV is one of the better remaining options overall. They are certainly a more well rounded school than Boise.

And they aren't going to want Air Force but its not b/c they are left leaning with a diastase of the military. Nobody will want the military schools b/c they aren't going to be able to cover full cost of attendance for players. That will soon a requirement to play the top FBS conferences.
Posted by lsutothetop
TigerDroppings Elite
Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:28 am to
UNLV they might be able to justify (along the same lines as the Arizona schools), but no way they'll go for anyone in Texas that isn't UT. Texas markets would be nice, but SMU and Houston aren't legitimately pulling any weight in Texas sports broadcasting
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:37 am to
Adding NC State would be akin to a third-term abortion. It would make Missouri seem like a sensible addition by comparison.
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