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Why are college players not allowed to sell their own autograph?

Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:05 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:05 am
These players can sign autographs, and other people can sell it and make money... but the players themselves can't make money off of their own name?

Can somebody explain to me why this is a good idea?
Posted by tgr4ever
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:07 am to
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 12:07 am
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:07 am to
Because someone can give them $200000 for it on a LOI
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:08 am to
Because some booster will abuse it by buying a signed football for outrageous sums of money thus showing recruits how to get paid.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:09 am to
NCAA is the only one who can make money off their name.
Posted by CarolinaSoCocky
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:14 am to
quote:

NCAA is the only one who can make money off their name.


This
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:16 am to
Because we have to protect the sanctity of amateur athletics.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:19 am to
But athletes can have jobs and make money... but they aren't allowed to make $200,000 for washing dishes.

How does the NCAA keep track of that stuff?
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 12:20 am
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:44 am to
quote:

But athletes can have jobs and make money... but they aren't allowed to make $200,000 for washing dishes. How does the NCAA keep track of that stuff?

I don't know. I remember a guy that got in trouble for getting paid to much though. He was getting paid like 1 or 2 dollars above what he was supposed to. How they determined how much he was supposed to be paid I don't know.
Posted by JordonfortheJ
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:45 am to
Do you really need an explanation for this?
Posted by LSUcdro
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:46 am to
just because, that's as much as you need to know
Posted by JordonfortheJ
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:47 am to
quote:

How does the NCAA keep track of that stuff?


Snitches be lurkin'
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:54 am to
quote:

Do you really need an explanation for this?
I understand WHY they outlaw that kind of stuff...

But what I am getting at is that athletes can have regular jobs... as long as they are paid "fair market value".

Why can fair market value not be determined when selling autographs?
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:54 am to
Or doing commercials.

The only thing that we truly own in this life is our name and image. We should be able to use them as we please.

Unfortunately the NC Double Assholes don't use logic or common sense when writing or applying rules.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 2:45 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:29 am to
quote:

NCAA is the only one who can make money off their name.



Ttown menswear guy would call you a liar.

Went on my once-a-year trip to the Univ. Mall today, stepped into TTMW guy's Bama store and there was an obscene amount of product that was produced by our players, many of them players that are still on the team. It was kind of sleazy, or it felt that way at least. How does he get these players' autographs? shite is kind of weird. I would prefer for it not to happen, but...who am i? It is what it is...just my opinion.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:48 am to

quote:

How does he get these players' autographs?

He asks for them?

Does he give them money for those autographs? Maybe. Maybe not.

I know he does employ several players after they graduate for in-store signings. It's probably a I'll take care of you, you take care of me relationship.

Similar to the bars around campus and "lost" tabs.
Posted by stho381
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:26 am to
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This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 3:27 am
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:26 am to
quote:

stepped into TTMW guy's Bama store and there was an obscene amount of product that was produced by our players, many of them players that are still on the team. It was kind of sleazy, or it felt that way at least. How does he get these players' autographs?


Does he sell them or

quote:

· Use a student-athlete's name, picture, or appearance to promote sales or advertise the use of a commercial product or service.


You would think bama's compliance would have stopped all contact with team members and him by now. Maybe it's from prior. I am sure there is similar shite at most schools, but I would hope not so much from current players
Posted by RollTideRob
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 8:54 am to
quote:

I understand WHY they outlaw that kind of stuff... But what I am getting at is that athletes can have regular jobs... as long as they are paid "fair market value". Why can fair market value not be determined when selling autographs? 


Because a booster might want to buy 20,000 autographs for $10 each. After all $10 is a fair price.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37551 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 9:00 am to
For the same reason college players are not allowed to hold jobs.

Did you know that even if a college ballplayer held a cure to cancer, or knew the secret to bringing peace to the world and ending hunger ... no matter what the case. That student athlete playing football would have to forgo everything else in order to play football. He could not be an actor during the off season for example, or a musician or a doctor.

The NCAA owns you.

I suspect that is going to change in coming years. It is basically a form of legal slavery.
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