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Offseason thread. Why was Florida bad/mediocre until '90

Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:26 pm
Posted by John Maplethorpe
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:26 pm
Just curious and a fan could probably explain quicker than googling.

Big school in a big football state with money. Why'd it take so long? I'll hang up and listen. Thanks.
Posted by JDM1992
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:27 pm to
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:27 pm to
Same reason LSU was terrible until Saban got there. School decided to hire a proven head coach and throw more money into the program.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:28 pm to
Didn't they have a population boom in the late 60s/early 70s?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:28 pm to
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Why was Florida bad/mediocre until '90

Ruh roh



The football team was very good in the 80's...if one overlooks the 19,000 infractions.
Posted by tiger perry
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:28 pm to
They had a great team in 84, but were stripped of the SEC title and LSU took their place in the Sugar Bowl. Had talent but were overshadowed by Georgia and Auburn. Could never put the peaces together until Spurrier got there.
Posted by John Maplethorpe
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:29 pm to
Even if you give them being good in the 80s. It's still strange.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:32 pm to
Just emphasis. Bryant ran the 60's and 70's. And as said earlier, population boom...and then just desire to do it.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:35 pm to
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Same reason LSU was terrible until Saban got there.


I'd expect this from the Cheerio Kid segment. As a matter of point, LSU was conference champion/co-champion 7 times before UF got their first (that counted) in 1991.
Posted by volforever
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:39 pm to
Before the 60's Florida had a very small population, during the 60's and 70's the Bear cheated his way to several championships, and in the 80's Florida discovered that they could win if they cheated, then in the 90's, a Tennessean (Spurrier) went down there and made them what they are today.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:40 pm to
Weren't they a womenz-only school up until 1983?
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:44 pm to
FSU back in the day maybe?
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:46 pm to
Everyone is mostly right. The population boom in the 70's and 80's propelled UF, FSU and Miami. We were all good, and we (UF) got the NCAA hammer into oblivion, which set us back a few years. Everyone was cheating, but we were cheating worse than Lane Kiffin on his best day, and super easy to catch, esp after an insider who was passed over for promotions turned on us.

BTW, Spurrier was born in Miami, FL, and if he wasn't such a lazy recruiter at UF, we would have one or two more natty's and UM and FSU would have less.
This post was edited on 12/31/12 at 4:49 pm
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:48 pm to
FSU until the early 50's I believe. Wimminz went to FSU, Menfolk went to UF.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:49 pm to
Spurrier was never known as a 'work-aholic'...likes golfing too much. I'm pretty sure that's why he took the SCar job...Hilton Head and Augusta.
Posted by volforever
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:52 pm to
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Everyone is mostly right. The population boom in the 70's and 80's propelled UF, FSU and Miami. We were all good, and we (UF) got the NCAA hammer into oblivion, which set us back a few years. Everyone was cheating, but we were cheating worse than Lane Kiffin on his best day, and super easy to catch, esp after an insider who was passed over for promotions turned on us.

BTW, Spurrier was born in Miami, FL, and if he wasn't such a lazy recruiter at UF, we would have one or two more natty's and UM and FSU would have less.



But he was raised in Tennessee, so he is a Tennessean.
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:52 pm to
Yep, but he works his arse off now compared to UF. He said Rex Grossman and his Dad caught him in the office the only day he was there in the month of June when they were on a tour of schools.
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:54 pm to
Call him what you want, he is a native Floridian who got out of Tennessee as quick as he could. LOL

Just kidding, Tennessee is a beautiful state.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:55 pm to
I can believe it. Listening to him speak over last couple of decades you can tell he's just a 'good ole boy' that enjoys life and isn't in too much of a hurry for anything. Gawd bless him.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/31/12 at 4:57 pm to
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They had a great team in 84, but were stripped of the SEC title and LSU took their place in the Sugar Bowl. Had talent but were overshadowed by Georgia and Auburn. Could never put the peaces together until Spurrier got there.


This for the most part. They were hands down the best team in the country in 1984. Probably the 5th best team in the country in 1983.

However, UGA was dominant the first few years in the 80's and AU won the SEC in '83, '87, '88, and '89.

In 1984 UF won the SEC but had to vacate it (they never gave the trophy back though, said they lost it). Charlie Pell was buying up players left and right, SMU style and the NCAA crippled them for the next 5 years.

Then Spurrier arrived as UF came off probation and you know the rest.

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