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Who wins an SEC title first: MSU or Ole Miss?

Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:41 am
Posted by Ted2010
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:41 am
Tough for me to say. But I'll say MSU. What saith the SEC Rant?
Posted by RebelNutt
God's Country
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:44 am to
Neither but I'll say ole miss because I'm a homer.. How's that for an answer
Posted by Bench McElroy
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:46 am to
Ole Miss. The only time Mississippi State came close to winning a SEC title was when Alabama, LSU, and Auburn was down. Throw Texas A&M to the mix and I don't see them sniffing a SEC title anytime soon. For Ole Miss, they only need two of the big three (Bama, LSU, Auburn) to be down to win. Ole Miss had really good teams in 2003 and 2008 when LSU won a national championship and Bama went 12-0 in the regular season. They can deal with one of those programs being really good. They just can't afford both of them to be good at the same time.
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Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:47 am to
That's pretty honest. But you have to think eventually one of those two teams will win one.
Posted by tgr4ever
Gwinnett, baw
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:49 am to
MSU
Posted by RebelNutt
God's Country
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:50 am to
You would think but let's not get ahead of ourselves here..
Posted by Ted2010
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:50 am to
When was the last time one of them won an SEC title?
Posted by RebelNutt
God's Country
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:54 am to
Our last one came in the 60s
Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 6:57 am to
Wow! That long huh? I know Ole Miss was very good in the 60's and won a MNC. What happened to cause them to do a complete 180 since then?
Posted by dapado33
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 7:19 am to
quote:

I know Ole Miss was very good in the 60's and won a MNC. What happened to cause them to do a complete 180 since then?
Integration
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 7:20 am to
Ole Miss. State will never win the SEC Championship again

Posted by Ted2010
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 7:22 am to
Did it really affect Ole Miss that badly? And what about MSU? Have they ever had a period where they were really good? Someone yesterday posed MSU's record vs Bama and it was 17-75 or something close to it. Unreal.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 7:33 am to
Neither. MSU is the Auburn of the state but not nearly as good as Auburn and Ole Siss has become content just being the drunks of the SEC.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 7:35 am to
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Have they ever had a period where they were really good?


Late 30s early 40s. We didn't become a terrible program until Vaught started coaching at OM. We were awful in the 50s and 60s. We had some good years in the mid 70s early 80s. Then bad, then good under Sherrill.

We went 10-0-1 in 1940 and won the Orange Bowl. Went 8-1-1 the next year and won the SEC. Had some other good years around those including another Orange Bowl appearance. Then we were good in the late 90s from 96-2000. Winningest team in the West those years and also won the west in 98.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 12/29/12 at 7:40 am to
Ole Miss. Bc they can get the talent there, just need a few breaks.

Ms State is a dumpster fire and will always be such. Should be conf usa, but they are a remainder from when Bama and LSU kept them for an easy conference win.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 12/29/12 at 8:14 am to
Neither will ever win the SEC again.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/29/12 at 8:26 am to
Sort of integration. Really it was more of the administration not moving forward. The good ol boys ruled this school up until Freeze got here. Coaches werent hired because they were the best person for the job. They were hired to please the good ol boy system. I'm talking from AD's down. Dan Jones had to step on some "old money" toes with these new hires. But I think the progress is showing. Him and Bjork are changing the culture.
Posted by Klongdawg
Member since Oct 2010
8293 posts
Posted on 12/29/12 at 8:27 am to
Once Saban leaves, we will get back to beating Bama on a regular basis. From 96-2007 we split.
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4450 posts
Posted on 12/29/12 at 8:33 am to
I think its possible for either to win one. LSU fans seem to forget that spell of years where they sucked. They were just a average team. I wanna say it was from around 1986 to 2001. The best bowl game they had during those years was like the Gator Bowl or something. Saban came along and changed the program.

USCe was also in a stretch of tough years. From 1990 to 1998 they had only three winning seasons. Holtz/Spurrier came along and built them into what they are now. All the while they are in a relatively small state with another major college in Clemson.

The point is it can happen at either of the schools. I'd say if I had to choose Ole Miss just because for whatever reason traditionally its been the easier school to get top talent to. (The talent from the female side is 2nd to none)
Posted by TenTex
Member since Jan 2008
15949 posts
Posted on 12/29/12 at 8:38 am to
Vandy will before either!
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