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Sagarin Conference Rankings: SEC #2?
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:01 pm
[link=( https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm)]Sagarin Conference Rankings[/link]
1. Big XII
2. SEC
3. PAC-12
4. Big 10
5. Independents
6. Big East
7. ACC
1. Big XII
2. SEC
3. PAC-12
4. Big 10
5. Independents
6. Big East
7. ACC
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:02 pm to Athens Gator
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:04 pm to Athens Gator
I dont even want to understand the reasoning behind this shite
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:04 pm to tgr4ever
Computers love Big-12. Not new.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:05 pm to Athens Gator
fricktarded
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:08 pm to Athens Gator
Your sig pic sucks.
Big 12 would get smoked head to head by the SEC. Eye test, bammers will tell you all about it.
Big 12 would get smoked head to head by the SEC. Eye test, bammers will tell you all about it.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:11 pm to Athens Gator
Sagarin gives greater weight to pure wins and loses, doesn't it? Since they only have one or two real teams, they don't beat up on each other.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:14 pm to HarryBalzack
For some reason, Sagarin always leans too hard on the suck teams. Big XII only had one awful team this year, Kansas. The SEC had three: Kentucky, Auburn, and Arkansas. That's why his rankings are the way they are.
From the top-down, though, it's a no-brainer. Big XII had three teams with 8 or more wins. The SEC had eight to include six with 10 or more wins. Sick.
From the top-down, though, it's a no-brainer. Big XII had three teams with 8 or more wins. The SEC had eight to include six with 10 or more wins. Sick.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:14 pm to Athens Gator
It weights the teams like this:
1-2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2-1.
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
Meaning K-State accounts for 1/30th of the formula for determining the Big 12's strength, and Alabama accounts for 1/56th of the SEC's strength. I swear its like people can't spend 5 minutes reading this crap.
1-2-3-4-5-5-4-3-2-1.
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
Meaning K-State accounts for 1/30th of the formula for determining the Big 12's strength, and Alabama accounts for 1/56th of the SEC's strength. I swear its like people can't spend 5 minutes reading this crap.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:15 pm to MrSEC
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For some reason, Sagarin always leans too hard on the suck teams. Big XII only had one awful team this year, Kansas. The SEC had three: Kentucky, Auburn, and Arkansas. That's why his rankings are the way they are.
From the top-down, though, it's a no-brainer. Big XII had three teams with 8 or more wins. The SEC had eight to include six with 10 or more wins. Sick.
No. It has to with a dumb statistical bias.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:26 pm to TeLeFaWx
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No. It has to with a dumb statistical bias.
It actually doesn't have to do with the weighting you describe. He does it weighted, unweighted, and with a "removed bad teams" method.
The problem is Sagarin, like many staticians, doesn't understand what he is modeling well enough to construct a competent model.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:31 pm to Athens Gator
2 SOUTHEASTERN (A) = 81.16 80.89 ( 2) TEAMS= 14 80.99 ( 2)
College Football 2012 through games of December 15 Saturday the BCS uses the ELO_CHESS from here
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.91] [ 2.72] [ 3.10]
1 Alabama A = 96.07 12 1 74.19( 34) 1 1 | 3 1 | 93.63 3 | 99.10 1
4 Florida A = 93.06 11 1 77.11( 14) 2 1 | 5 1 | 94.70 2 | 91.39 6
6 Texas A&M A = 90.79 10 2 75.87( 25) 1 1 | 1 2 | 88.77 12 | 92.96 5
7 Georgia A = 90.43 11 2 73.25( 39) 1 2 | 2 2 | 89.72 9 | 90.87 7
10 South Carolina A = 89.20 10 2 74.18( 35) 1 1 | 3 2 | 90.34 8 | 87.89 10
11 LSU A = 88.54 10 2 75.09( 28) 2 2 | 2 2 | 90.62 7 | 86.54 13
30 Vanderbilt A = 79.48 8 4 72.65( 42) 0 3 | 0 3 | 80.16 27 | 78.54 35
33 Mississippi A = 78.63 6 6 75.90( 24) 0 3 | 0 6 | 78.35 35 | 78.61 34
39 Mississippi State A = 78.10 8 4 70.07( 53) 0 2 | 0 3 | 78.36 34 | 77.54 38
43 Missouri A = 75.75 5 7 79.74( 2) 0 5 | 1 6 | 75.67 42 | 75.52 46
56 Tennessee A = 73.01 5 7 74.81( 30) 0 4 | 0 5 | 72.63 54 | 73.08 58
66 Arkansas A = 70.15 4 8 76.06( 23) 0 3 | 0 4 | 70.62 62 | 69.39 67
83 Auburn A = 65.60 3 9 77.69( 11) 0 3 | 0 6 | 66.22 82 | 64.68 85
91 Kentucky A = 63.66 2 10 76.14( 22) 0 3 | 0 4 | 65.69 89 | 61.41 102
College Football 2012 through games of December 15 Saturday the BCS uses the ELO_CHESS from here
RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
HOME ADVANTAGE=[ 2.91] [ 2.72] [ 3.10]
1 Alabama A = 96.07 12 1 74.19( 34) 1 1 | 3 1 | 93.63 3 | 99.10 1
4 Florida A = 93.06 11 1 77.11( 14) 2 1 | 5 1 | 94.70 2 | 91.39 6
6 Texas A&M A = 90.79 10 2 75.87( 25) 1 1 | 1 2 | 88.77 12 | 92.96 5
7 Georgia A = 90.43 11 2 73.25( 39) 1 2 | 2 2 | 89.72 9 | 90.87 7
10 South Carolina A = 89.20 10 2 74.18( 35) 1 1 | 3 2 | 90.34 8 | 87.89 10
11 LSU A = 88.54 10 2 75.09( 28) 2 2 | 2 2 | 90.62 7 | 86.54 13
30 Vanderbilt A = 79.48 8 4 72.65( 42) 0 3 | 0 3 | 80.16 27 | 78.54 35
33 Mississippi A = 78.63 6 6 75.90( 24) 0 3 | 0 6 | 78.35 35 | 78.61 34
39 Mississippi State A = 78.10 8 4 70.07( 53) 0 2 | 0 3 | 78.36 34 | 77.54 38
43 Missouri A = 75.75 5 7 79.74( 2) 0 5 | 1 6 | 75.67 42 | 75.52 46
56 Tennessee A = 73.01 5 7 74.81( 30) 0 4 | 0 5 | 72.63 54 | 73.08 58
66 Arkansas A = 70.15 4 8 76.06( 23) 0 3 | 0 4 | 70.62 62 | 69.39 67
83 Auburn A = 65.60 3 9 77.69( 11) 0 3 | 0 6 | 66.22 82 | 64.68 85
91 Kentucky A = 63.66 2 10 76.14( 22) 0 3 | 0 4 | 65.69 89 | 61.41 102
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:32 pm to roadGator
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Your sig pic sucks
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:34 pm to Athens Gator
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1. Big XII
2. SEC
3. PAC-12
4. Big 10
5. Independents
6. Big East
7. ACC
Been saying this all year - SEC is stronger at the top, but is weaker at the bottom. You can thank Ark, Aub, UK, Tenn, & Mizz for this. 5 conference wins between them. Just think if the SEC played 9 conf games - it could have been worse.
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:44 pm to Athens Gator
The Big12 dropped 2 bottom feeders and picked up much better teams while we had to some how carry their load. It was just too much weight for the conference to support.....
Posted on 12/17/12 at 6:46 pm to Athens Gator
Lolworthy
A&M needs to whip OU
A&M needs to whip OU
Posted on 12/17/12 at 7:03 pm to Athens Gator
1st page
Posted on 12/17/12 at 7:05 pm to Athens Gator
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 12/17/12 at 7:06 pm to Athens Gator
I see, and the Big12 team playing in Miami is? Such a ridiculous argument for losers.
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Posted on 12/17/12 at 7:25 pm to bamaoldtimer
Did the Big 12 even have a significant OOC win this year? I know ND crushed Oklahoma. Kansas State over Miami? Texas over Ole Miss?
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