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Future Bowl Scenario? four 16-team leagues
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:44 pm
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sorry for the rudimentary map, but its the best i could do
The Big 12 will fold when the Big 10 soaks us KSU and KU.
OSU and OU will then join the SEC...keeping it the best in the world.....seriously, send the SEC after the Taliban...done.
UT, Baylor, TTech and TCU will join the Pacifist 12 making four sixteen-team leagues.
Sorry Iowa State, youre done. But there's hope, there will be a mid major division of the Former Big East, Cusa, Mac, MWC Sunbelt and WAC.
There will be 64 teams as well, divided geographically into 4 groups. They will have to add teams from 1aa like UTSan Antonio to get to 64 but it will happen.
Here is the scenario.
4 teams from the mid major divisions occupy the bottom 13-16 seeds.
4 conference winners of the MAJORs play these 4 mids.
The remaining 8 will be two runners up from each league.
The conference champs get a "bye" by playing a mid major, so there is merit in the regular season, while the Runners up have to play a tough one to get back in the scene.
Make the matchups sexy, while geographic. YOu can rearrange 5-12 to make it happen.
Taking a hypothetical year, here goes.
1 Stan P12 champ
2 Bama SEC champ
3 FSU ACC Champ
4 OSU B10 Champ
5-12 LSU SEC
5-12 OU SEC
5-12 MICH B10
5-12 WIS B10
5-12 ND ACC
5-12 WVU ACC
5-12 ORE P16
5-12 USC P16
13 UNI Mid Major NE Champ
14 USM MM South Champ
15 Boise MM West Champ
16 Tulsa MM Central Champ
Stan
Tulsa
OU
WIS
WVU
Mich
OSU
UNI
BAMA
Boise
ND
ORE
LSU
USC
FSU
USM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
what about the other bowls? They matter because the winners of the other bowls get their team ranked 17-36 in the next year's preseason. Win your damn bowl and you start better next year......that will make Louisville vs Central Florida matter. Then you won't have folks saying that their preseason spot is what left them out of the BCS game.
Thoughts?
sorry for the rudimentary map, but its the best i could do
The Big 12 will fold when the Big 10 soaks us KSU and KU.
OSU and OU will then join the SEC...keeping it the best in the world.....seriously, send the SEC after the Taliban...done.
UT, Baylor, TTech and TCU will join the Pacifist 12 making four sixteen-team leagues.
Sorry Iowa State, youre done. But there's hope, there will be a mid major division of the Former Big East, Cusa, Mac, MWC Sunbelt and WAC.
There will be 64 teams as well, divided geographically into 4 groups. They will have to add teams from 1aa like UTSan Antonio to get to 64 but it will happen.
Here is the scenario.
4 teams from the mid major divisions occupy the bottom 13-16 seeds.
4 conference winners of the MAJORs play these 4 mids.
The remaining 8 will be two runners up from each league.
The conference champs get a "bye" by playing a mid major, so there is merit in the regular season, while the Runners up have to play a tough one to get back in the scene.
Make the matchups sexy, while geographic. YOu can rearrange 5-12 to make it happen.
Taking a hypothetical year, here goes.
1 Stan P12 champ
2 Bama SEC champ
3 FSU ACC Champ
4 OSU B10 Champ
5-12 LSU SEC
5-12 OU SEC
5-12 MICH B10
5-12 WIS B10
5-12 ND ACC
5-12 WVU ACC
5-12 ORE P16
5-12 USC P16
13 UNI Mid Major NE Champ
14 USM MM South Champ
15 Boise MM West Champ
16 Tulsa MM Central Champ
Stan
Tulsa
OU
WIS
WVU
Mich
OSU
UNI
BAMA
Boise
ND
ORE
LSU
USC
FSU
USM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
what about the other bowls? They matter because the winners of the other bowls get their team ranked 17-36 in the next year's preseason. Win your damn bowl and you start better next year......that will make Louisville vs Central Florida matter. Then you won't have folks saying that their preseason spot is what left them out of the BCS game.
Thoughts?
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 1:08 pm
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Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:47 pm to dstone12
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four 16-team leagues
Would suck
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:47 pm to dstone12
College football is dead
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:53 pm to dstone12
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The Big 12 will fold when the Big 10 soaks us KSU and KU
KSU is not an AAU school. B1G will not allow it if it's a package deal. They will take Iowa State (AAU) before they take KSU.
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OSU and OU will then join the SEC
Neither team brings an added market. SEC will expand east, not west.
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UT, Baylor, TTech and TCU will join the Pacifist 12
PAC 12 will never admit any of those four except Texas...and that's only if they lose that POS network.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:54 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:North Carolina is a better football market than Oklahoma? You sure about that?
Neither team brings an added market. SEC will expand east, not west.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 12:59 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Neither team brings an added market. SEC will expand east, not west.
I think we would very much benefit from adding an Oklahoma team.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:01 pm to loyalauron
it would be over as we know it, but a 16 team playoff with all the little guys not having the right to cry would be an improvement.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:03 pm to genro
This isn't about football. The league presidents care about academic prestige (AAU membership) and TV markets for the upcoming SEC Network. Texas A&M and Missouri fit the bill. North Carolina, Virginia and Duke fit the bill. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State don't meet the academic criteria.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:04 pm to dstone12
I sure hope not. Some of are fortunate to pull for teams that are high profile and highly successful. Others pull for teams they love just as much and support just as much that with no fault of their own have mediocre at best history and success.
Look how Kansas,for Pete's sake, with an incredible pedigree in basketball almost got shipped off to the Mtn West a few years ago after it looked like the Big 12 was going to dissolve.
Look how Kansas,for Pete's sake, with an incredible pedigree in basketball almost got shipped off to the Mtn West a few years ago after it looked like the Big 12 was going to dissolve.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:35 pm to GoldenFlakes
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The league presidents care about academic prestige (AAU membership) and TV markets for the upcoming SEC Network
Oh, so that's why everyone is clamoring for Tulane, huh?
Monies made from a 16 team playoff (if financially viable) would overshadow an AAU membership. Seriously...why would they care, when money is the #1 factor?
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:51 pm to dstone12
A 16-team playoff isn't dependent on who the SEC adds in the next round of expansion. The league presidents have made clear that they value AAU membership for new members. (Whether fans think that's a good idea is irrelevant.) North Carolina is a better TV market than Oklahoma, and the league that's won the last six national championships (and counting) doesn't need to boost its football pedigree. Heck, the Sporting News basically says the SEC is salivating after UNC and DUke.
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"If that’s true, Maryland is the Curt Flood of college football. And it could lead to the one remaining mega move still out there: Florida State and Clemson to the Big 12. If that happens, the two crown jewels of the ACC become available. Duke and North Carolina, which an ACC source said have been chased by the SEC for “the last three years,” will choose between the Big Ten and the SEC."
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"If that’s true, Maryland is the Curt Flood of college football. And it could lead to the one remaining mega move still out there: Florida State and Clemson to the Big 12. If that happens, the two crown jewels of the ACC become available. Duke and North Carolina, which an ACC source said have been chased by the SEC for “the last three years,” will choose between the Big Ten and the SEC."
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 1:56 pm to dstone12
Is it just me or does it look like a gator with two tails is about to eat the B1G?
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:23 pm to CockHolliday
OU goes with Texas to the PAC. NC State and V Tech to SEC. Culturally OU belongs in the SEC and many OU fans want the SEC. However the powers that be would want the PAC first. No way does the Pac take Baylor no way! If the Big 12 breaks up Iowa State, Baylor and TCU are SOL. Kansas State I don't know. I know the fact the ACC took Louisville they would suck up West Virginia too academics. Duke, Wake Forest, UVA, ND, UNC, BC, Miami and Syracuse cancel Louisville and West Virginia out in terms of academics.
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:26 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:27 pm to Notre Dame Fan
OU will go West with Texas. I see Virginia Tech and NC State in the SEC. NC State to the SEC gets them out of UNC and Duke's shadow or at least help. Virginia and North Carolina have way more TV sets than Oklahoma does even with the OU alums in Texas.
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:32 pm to dstone12
Then we could have a true SEC East/SEC West. Bring OU, OSU, and Missouri to the west, move Auburn/Alabama to the East. No need for permanents any longer in this scenario, or is this too unbalanced?
SEC West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M
SEC East: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
SEC West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M
SEC East: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:35 pm to spslayto
This post was edited on 2/17/13 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:39 pm to spslayto
quote:True. The SEC's 5 sacred rivalries are in tact
No need for permanents any longer in this scenario
quote:Of course, it fluctuates year to year but it looks fine to me.
too unbalanced
13 years ago, the west was dead and all the power was in the east.
Last year, the east was dead and all the power was in the west.
This year it was balanced.
shite changes, it looks good to me.
This post was edited on 12/13/12 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 12/13/12 at 2:52 pm to spslayto
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Then we could have a true SEC East/SEC West. Bring OU, OSU, and Missouri to the west, move Auburn/Alabama to the East. No need for permanents any longer in this scenario, or is this too unbalanced? SEC West: Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M SEC East: Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Why not simply add Virginia Tech and NC State to the East and simply move Missouri to the West instead? That geographically aligns the divisions with as little interruption among the charter members. I respect the heck out of OU, but adding the North Carolina and Virginia market is much more lucrative to the SEC than adding Oklahoma whichc has about one fifth of the population of NC and Virginia combined. The only thing I'd prefer to that is to replace NC State with UNC but I think UNC will be difficult for the SEC to land.
Posted on 12/14/12 at 9:43 am to Govt Tide
Bc ncstate is not AAU. 
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