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I'm going to risk looking like a dumbass asking this but,
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:11 pm
What is it that separates CGM's offense from others? People keep calling it specialized, rare, and different. When he coached here last I never tried breaking the game down,I've always just watched the game without too much thought into the fundamentals of it. I've changed now and I am starting to appreciate all the small things in the game and how much work goes into it,
If that makes any sense. Is it different from other Hurry up no huddle offenses?
As an Auburn fan I feel like I should already know this.
If that makes any sense. Is it different from other Hurry up no huddle offenses?
As an Auburn fan I feel like I should already know this.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:13 pm to Nortizzle
No one uses jet sweeps or screen passes like Gus.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:13 pm to Nortizzle
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Is it different from other Hurry up no huddle offenses?
I'd say it is a little more physical than most. Power running. He also invented the wildcat...
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:13 pm to Nortizzle
Hurry up no huddle but with more emphasis on running the ball. That and he likes to run between the tackles when he does. He is good at using the personnel that he has also
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:14 pm to Nortizzle
Works more off the run game and play-action.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:16 pm to Nortizzle
He is unique and common if that makes sense. He adapts from what I've seen and uses old try and true methods.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:16 pm to Nortizzle
BTW, J/K with you.
I dunno. He seems to incorporate more of a running game than many HUNH offenses, but I am not sure it is that tremendously different. In fact I don't think it really is.
What is comes down to is execution through repetition in practice and the ability of the play caller on the side line.
I am not one that thinks Gus is an offensive genious BTW. I think a good offensive coordinator, better than most, but I stop there.
I dunno. He seems to incorporate more of a running game than many HUNH offenses, but I am not sure it is that tremendously different. In fact I don't think it really is.
What is comes down to is execution through repetition in practice and the ability of the play caller on the side line.
I am not one that thinks Gus is an offensive genious BTW. I think a good offensive coordinator, better than most, but I stop there.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:17 pm to mckibaj
Wildcat started at Kansas State, hence the name. Gus did bring it back while at Arkansas, so he's got that. And now I hope he never uses it again.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:18 pm to blzr
Thank you everyone. I just kept hearing things and had to find out.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:24 pm to Nortizzle
As mentioned, the run oriented aspect makes it unique, but Oregon is the same there. To me what makes Gus unique is that his offense is equally keyed on taking shots downfield, which is unique for a run oriented gameplan. As long as he has a QB with a decent downfield arm, he can spread the defense in every direction and be nearly impossible to stop.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:29 pm to Nortizzle
I really think it comes down to a matter of degree and scheming/creativity through preparation.
For example:
I believe a coordinator like Petrino (or Gus) is the type that wants a play run perfect in practice. Well, so does everyone else, right? Yes. But say a coach says we are going to run this play until we do it absolutely perfect. Then it takes 10 times to get it totally right. Coach is happy. Petrino is only slightly less pissed and says, now we are going to keep on running it until we get it totally perfect 5 straight times.
I think the really good precision offenses just work harder and longer with greater attention to detail. I do not think the philosophies are much different.
Then the scheming and play calling is better with some coaches during the game. Those that work harder and study the other teams defense better and who are just smarter and more creative do better.
I think Gus is both a "perfectionist" type that is going to drill and work his players harder with more reps and he is studies and schemes harder than most of his peers. Being HC may take away from this though and he may not be as good of a gameday play caller with all the other areas he is going to have to focus on as HC.
For example:
I believe a coordinator like Petrino (or Gus) is the type that wants a play run perfect in practice. Well, so does everyone else, right? Yes. But say a coach says we are going to run this play until we do it absolutely perfect. Then it takes 10 times to get it totally right. Coach is happy. Petrino is only slightly less pissed and says, now we are going to keep on running it until we get it totally perfect 5 straight times.
I think the really good precision offenses just work harder and longer with greater attention to detail. I do not think the philosophies are much different.
Then the scheming and play calling is better with some coaches during the game. Those that work harder and study the other teams defense better and who are just smarter and more creative do better.
I think Gus is both a "perfectionist" type that is going to drill and work his players harder with more reps and he is studies and schemes harder than most of his peers. Being HC may take away from this though and he may not be as good of a gameday play caller with all the other areas he is going to have to focus on as HC.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:43 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I've listened to him talk and scheme ab his offense. He is very calculated almost mathmatical with his play calling. He calls a lot of plays based on statistics and location on the field.
Probably one of the best gameday planners there is. (from an offensive playcalling standpoint)
The bad part about his offense it relys heavy on blocking wr's so Bray and Reed are going to be useless in that aspect. We ran the ball so well in 2010 thanks in large part to Kodi Burns and T. Zac. I think losing those blockers on the edge had a lot to do with our offensive troubles in 2011.
Probably one of the best gameday planners there is. (from an offensive playcalling standpoint)
The bad part about his offense it relys heavy on blocking wr's so Bray and Reed are going to be useless in that aspect. We ran the ball so well in 2010 thanks in large part to Kodi Burns and T. Zac. I think losing those blockers on the edge had a lot to do with our offensive troubles in 2011.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:11 pm to Aubie Spr96
Thanks, that guy can really break stuff down.
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:15 pm to AUtigR24
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:23 pm to achamb7
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Derp, on my part
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:51 pm to AUtigR24
imo, for Malzahn's offense to work effectively he's gotta connect on the deep ball... and he loves to use double-moves.
I think we're gonna see our WRs and (hopefully) QBs play better in the new system... but we've gotta get the ball deep.
I think we're gonna see our WRs and (hopefully) QBs play better in the new system... but we've gotta get the ball deep.
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