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Pinkel's Job Just Got Tougher

Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:06 pm
Posted by SunHog
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:06 pm
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"One place will probably be Florida. He's likely bringing with him Wisconsin defensive line coach and ace Florida recruiter Charlie Partridge, who over the years somehow managed to convince a handful of Florida kids to play in chilly Madison, Wis. Now he gets to sell the SEC — just as Missouri tries to build bridges in the Sunshine State, too."

I've been saying Missouri will become the next Kentucky unless they hire some very, very good recruiters. Arkansas and Tennessee, in the Upper South, have a hard enough time with recruiting and Missouri and Kentucky are much farther north.

I think this hurts Missouri a little more than most people realize.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:09 pm to
There's not a single recruit that Wisky got from the State of Florida that UF or FSU gave a shite about to my knowledge.

I bet nearly every school in the nation East of the Rockies has a FL HS athlete on their roster.

Posted by Mizzeaux
Worshington
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:10 pm to
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Pinkel's Job Just Got Tougher



Only for a year.
Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
23179 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:12 pm to
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Only for a year.

If next year isn't a definite improvement over this year...you're right.

But we appreciate the OPs interest in Mizzou Athletics.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:13 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:12 pm to
SunFrog is just another Arky troll.

He just posts more campus pictures than the rest.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:13 pm to
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There's not a single recruit that Wisky got from the State of Florida that UF or FSU gave a shite about to my knowledge.



You're missing the point.

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I bet nearly every school in the nation East of the Rockies has a FL HS athlete on their roster.



I bet those kids from sunny Florida were just dying to play football in the cold Midwest.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:16 pm to
What is your point then if it's not showing that Mizzou is in trouble because your newest coach/coaches landed a "handful" of FL recruits?

It's easy to get FL recruits. It's not easy to get the good ones.

It doesn't hurt Mizzou at all. They already have some FL recruits we didn't want.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:16 pm to
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SunFrog is just another Arky troll.



You tell me how Missouri is supposed to compete in the deep south? Kentucky has never been able to do it and they sit in the exact same geography with the same in-state talent base.

Hiring a young good coach at Arkansas, which is their closest neighbor at 315 miles away, is certainly not a good thing. It is exactly what the article is trying to tell you.
Posted by srotaG adirolF
Lakeland, Florida
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:18 pm to
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I bet those kids from sunny Florida were just dying to play football in the cold Midwest.


Or, that is the only place they could play FBS football at a program that's worth something.

Arky won't come into Fl and steal a big time recruit that UF, FSU, uga, or Ala wants.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:18 pm to
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It's easy to get FL recruits. It's not easy to get the good ones.



You're the one off talking about Florida kids, not me. It was just one insert of the story. BB already stated Texas is his primary target and that is what I want to hear.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139549 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:19 pm to
You're the one that inserted a quote that started with...I don't know...Florida.

I'm not clicking any link you provide.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:22 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:21 pm to
I've never thought Mizzou was going to be able to compete in the Deep South.

They are a bad fit. Arky was/is a bad fit too though.

You've stated yourself over and over, the SEC helped Arky tremendously but now you seem to be implying that Mizzou will not benefit. What if it only takes them 10 years? How many years will it take Arky?
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:22 pm to
"the Badgers have become one of the country's best line-of-scrimmage programs, producing six offensive and defensive linemen who became first- or second-round NFL draft picks and 15 drafted linemen overall. With Bielema now the Head Hog, Arkansas should quickly become more appealing to elite 300-pounders — just the kind of players Missouri needs to be more competitive in the SEC."

It is referencing his recruiting ability in the department that matters.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:24 pm to
This obsession from Hogs fans with Mizzou is bizarre.

For one, Kentucky doesn't have the in-state players that Missouri does.. We still missed out on a number of great in-state players this year, but it's getting better and better.

Mizzou has already shown it can recruit in FLA and GA, and they're still getting some guys from TX. Texan committed today. We'll be fine, thanks for the concern.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139549 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:24 pm to
OK, they aren't getting them from Florida.

Mizzou needs to recruit better as does Arky. That's not news.

I'm not sure where you are going.

Everyone already knows/thinks Mizzou is going to have a tough time getting the personnel needed to win the SEC. Arky has had over 20 years and still hasn't accomplished that goal.

Is BB going to be better than Petrino?
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:26 pm to
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You've stated yourself over and over, the SEC helped Arky tremendously but now you seem to be implying that Mizzou will not benefit. What if it only takes them 10 years? How many years will it take Arky?


When did I state the SEC helped Arkansas tremendously? The word tremendously is almost never used by me.

Missouri will benefit as much as Kentucky.

Arkansas benefits as much as Tennessee. Especially since South Carolina and UGA have their programs going Tennessee can't pull the kids anymore.

LSU, Bama, UGA and Florida all benefit about the same.

You have 3 tiers... Upper "South" Missouri and Kentucky. MidSouth Arkansas and Tennessee and Deep South with the rest. The deep south has the most talent which is why they generally have the best teams regardless of coaching.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139549 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:30 pm to
Wait, are you saying being in the SEC hasn't helped Arky a lot/tremendously???

I'm not searching so go ahead and say you haven't.
Posted by mograyback
Member since Jul 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:33 pm to
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Missouri will benefit as much as Kentucky.


Kentucky was an original member of the SEC, joined in 1932.

The comment you responded to was talking about a boost in the program by joining the SEC.

You're about as sharp as a hammer.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 7:38 pm
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:34 pm to
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Is BB going to be better than Petrino?



In my opinion, Yes.

He is good coach because BCS bowls at in major conference is a very good accomplishment. He has a much better personality than Petrino which is a positive. He is a big guy himself and linemen love a big ole boy for common sense reasons.

Arkansas always produces very good skill players. If you haven't noticed our stud skill players are always from Arkansas yet we lack home grown big men.

Arkansas had Houston Nutt who had one heck of personality but wasn't that good of a coach. No one has Peyton Hills, Darren McFadeen, Felix Jones, Jammal Anderson on one team and doesn't win the SEC.

Arkansas then had Petrino who was one heck of coach but a dud personality and didn't recruit worth a shite out of state. However, his coaching was so good he went to the BCS.

Now insert BB he is a mixture of those two personalities and he has ties to Texas and Florida and a lot of money to hire a good staff. This potentially has the chance to be Arkansas' best hire ever. Arkansas needs Texas linemen and we can win the SEC. Let's see if he can get them or not.

This puts a lot of pressure on Missouri as their closest SEC school just made a very good hire.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
9202 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 7:36 pm to
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Wait, are you saying being in the SEC hasn't helped Arky a lot/tremendously???



Without Arkansas and South Carolina there isn't a championship game and there isn't TV money like today. It is a two way street not to mention the SEC is a shell of it's former self considering you didn't have divisions nor did you play a round robin schedule while having SEC teams meeting up in bowl games. It's obvious why so many championships teams where crowned back then to pad the stats.

You disregarded everything else in my entire post to focus on the word tremendously, ha. Figures.
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