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re: Everyone will be running the spread within 7 years
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:23 pm to RBWilliams8
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:23 pm to RBWilliams8
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Except the SEC... Not out fault the PAC doesn't play defense.
Oregon is 2-2 against the SEC since 2006, averaging 460 YPG and 33 PPG.
More relevant, A&M was 6-2 in the SEC this year and averaged over 500 YPG and 40 PPG in conference play. We put up season highs in yardage on six of those eight defenses.
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Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:28 pm to John Maplethorpe
no they won't
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:30 pm to Roger Klarvin
It's not the number of plays differential. Check with Spurrier, he saw the light.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:31 pm to Roger Klarvin
Golf clap.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:32 pm to John Maplethorpe
les miles laughs at this
Posted on 1/17/13 at 9:32 pm to heartbreakTiger
I get the feeling Les Miles luaghs at his own farts and the concept of timeouts.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:08 pm to John Maplethorpe
Now I know why the Long Horns hate the Aggies. You people are insufferable.
Posted on 1/17/13 at 10:32 pm to roll2tide
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This thread is 20 years too late. The spread started at small schools that lacked the talent to play power football and then spread through the western conferences. It hasn't served BifXII or PACXII teams well, imo. It de-emphasizes defense and allows teams like a Baylor or WVU to win shootouts against what should be superior teams and also hampers teams when they face opponents who can shut down the spread and run the ball themselves.
Actually, this thread is about 35 years too late. Mouse Davis popularized this type of offense in the late '70s at Portland State when they ran the run and shoot, and it has yet to infiltrate every program in the country. True, the run and shoot had the quarterback under center, but the spread offense is a direct descendant of the run and shoot, and very similar in the way it attacks defenses. Its an offensive scheme that seems to de-emphasize running the football, which is something championship teams tend to do well.
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 1/17/13 at 11:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Oregon is 2-2 against the SEC since 2006, averaging 460 YPG and 33 PPG.
They beat tenn.... Oh snap. Tenn lost 7 games that year. 48-13 to a bottom dweller.
Loss to lsu in '11 where they lost 44-27
Loss to auburn in '10 Where they lost 22-19
Can you tell me where the second win came from? Or are you pulling shite out of your arse?
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and averaged over 500 YPG
Ask west Virginia what 500+ yards of offense got them against a real defense in 2011... I'll give you a hint: 47-21
This post was edited on 1/17/13 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 5:18 am to RBWilliams8
End of thread.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 5:46 am to Nado Jenkins83
Also, it's always kind of annoying hearing the phrase "the spread offense" as if it's just one type of offense. Oregon's offense is not like A&M's offense which is not like 2008 Florida which is not like the 1992 Buffalo Bills. But to some idiots out there those are all the same thing because they're all "the spread".
Posted on 1/18/13 at 5:53 am to americanrealism
This is a stupid 7 page thread, starting with the OP.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 5:53 am
Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:49 am to John Maplethorpe
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Everyone will be running the spread within 7 years
nope. not gonna happen
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:01 am to Roger Klarvin
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I get the feeling Les Miles luaghs at his own farts and the concept of timeouts.
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:38 am to John Maplethorpe
There are 2 things wrong with this OP
1. The spread has been around for a long time and hasn't taken over every offense.
2. you're assuming no new innovative ideas will happen and everyone will adopt the spread
3. has one kind of offense ever been run at every university in the country? seems highly unlikely.
4. Just a general thought about everyone doing the same thing. As more people go to the spread you also see more teams go to power running.
5. when executed properly any good OCs offense is unstoppable. you don't tend to execute properly and get stopped.
1. The spread has been around for a long time and hasn't taken over every offense.
2. you're assuming no new innovative ideas will happen and everyone will adopt the spread
3. has one kind of offense ever been run at every university in the country? seems highly unlikely.
4. Just a general thought about everyone doing the same thing. As more people go to the spread you also see more teams go to power running.
5. when executed properly any good OCs offense is unstoppable. you don't tend to execute properly and get stopped.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:38 am to Roger Klarvin
Oregon is supposed to get credit for beating a shitty UT team? The only way the spread works against elite defenses is if you have a great QB (Cam, Tebow, Manziel). Alabama has been raping most of the spread offenses they've played.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:58 am to pvilleguru
Do the Patriots run a true spread? They look to me like they're running some kind of custom pro-style offense to me.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:58 am to MikeHoncho
So many of you don't understand that the Spread is more of an offensive philosophy rather than an actual formation like the Veer or Wing T. It's a philosophy designed to create space by using all of the field rather than just the middle. It can mean running plays out of 5 wide, shotgun 4 wide, shotgun 2 rb with 3 WRs, the Pistol, Double or Triple TE sets, etc. It can also mean a power running attack like Florida under Meyer, finesse running like Oregon under Chip Kelly, air raid like Leach, or balanced like Sumlin/Gundy. It can also mean both huddle and no-huddle offenses.
The NFL is moving to basically everyone running some version of the Spread because it works and given equal talent, defenses still cannot stop it. A well run Spread offense entirely removes the pass rush because the ball is thrown within 2 seconds of the snap. Thus all sacks must be a result of coverage.
The fact is many teams in the SEC are using this kind of philosophy more and more. Alabama has used no-huddle at times and they have extensively used the Shotgun as well because McCarron is a great QB.
Even if everyone doesn't run a standard Spread offense, there is no reason teams won't switch to a no-huddle offense. It's simply too big of an advantage to ignore and keeps the defense on its heels. You could easily do this and run nothing but Power I formations.
The NFL is moving to basically everyone running some version of the Spread because it works and given equal talent, defenses still cannot stop it. A well run Spread offense entirely removes the pass rush because the ball is thrown within 2 seconds of the snap. Thus all sacks must be a result of coverage.
The fact is many teams in the SEC are using this kind of philosophy more and more. Alabama has used no-huddle at times and they have extensively used the Shotgun as well because McCarron is a great QB.
Even if everyone doesn't run a standard Spread offense, there is no reason teams won't switch to a no-huddle offense. It's simply too big of an advantage to ignore and keeps the defense on its heels. You could easily do this and run nothing but Power I formations.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:59 am to Roger Klarvin
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Oregon is 2-2 against the SEC since 2006, averaging 460 YPG and 33 PPG.
Bullshait.
They're 1-2, with a mean average of 31 points per game. They skewed the average by hanging 48 on a shiatty Tennessee team. Against the other two teams, LSU and Auburn, they averaged 23 points.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:04 am to Vander
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McCarron is a great QB.
Only thing worth quoting in this miserable thread.
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